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Al Qaeda Confession: Only 200 Foreign Terrorists are left in Iraq.
December 4 2007 | jveritas

Posted on 12/04/2007 7:22:21 PM PST by jveritas

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To: Just Lori
I sure as hell aint gonna take the enemy's word for ANYTHING.

I think this is spot-on.

There's no question that outstanding progress has been made. Consider this though, from the standpoint of enemy strategy- suspend operations, withdraw Iranian cross-border forces, and wait for political pressure to withdraw to mount- until it is successful. Then- you're still right there, with a regrouped and reconstituted force, and the Americans military infrastructure is mostly thousands of miles away.

Not saying that that's what this is, I'm saying that's what it could be. It's what I'd do if I were running the Jihadist show. And I trust the word of the enemy about as far as I can throw an MRAP.

The way to counter it would be to make absolutely certain that the Iraqis are as stable and defensively solid as they can be made to be before the American withdrawal ultimately takes place.

151 posted on 12/05/2007 2:51:14 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Nachoman
Did this guy happen to mention where these 200 are staying?

"I'm not an Jihadi terrorist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night."

152 posted on 12/05/2007 2:54:37 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: jveritas

Source?


153 posted on 12/05/2007 3:00:23 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Truthism Watch)
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To: jveritas

200 can move elsewhere, too.


154 posted on 12/05/2007 3:04:27 AM PST by MindBender26 (Is FR worth our time anymore? All the "fun" sees to be gone.)
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To: jveritas

Just wow.... amazing BTTT...


155 posted on 12/05/2007 3:18:43 AM PST by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. accept no conservative substitute... it causes cancer of the heart)
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To: jveritas

LOL! These guys sure have no clue when it comes to their public pronouncements. Great news!


156 posted on 12/05/2007 3:31:31 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: FDNYRHEROES
Let's wipe out another couple hundred of these scum, and see where the ball lies after that...

Ditto that! At our rate we are only talking 2-3 months!

157 posted on 12/05/2007 3:46:40 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: jveritas

let’s not let our guard down. remember, Muslims are allowed to lie to the enemy whil


158 posted on 12/05/2007 3:53:40 AM PST by Cinnamon
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To: schlockandflaws; jveritas
When quoting another poster as you did in referring to jverita’s post #69, it is proper etiquette to ping them.

You aren’t understanding the point of this thread at all. It IS good news.

Comparing an Al Qaeda spokesman to my “cowboy hero”, Ronald Reagan, is a bit of a stretch isn’t it, Schlocky?

159 posted on 12/05/2007 4:00:54 AM PST by mplsconservative
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To: STARWISE
Thank you very much Star.

I think it is an indirect admission by Al Qaeda that it is all over for them in Iraq. Remember that Bin Laden basically said in his last speech about Iraq that "Darkness has turned in pitch black" and he basically gave up on Iraq.

160 posted on 12/05/2007 4:43:24 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

Bravo to the USA and our coalition partners. I do wonder where the fat boy Sadr is. i hope his sheep followers have deserted him or been killed off. The Iraqi’s need to get it together and not squander the opportunity they’ve been given, the opportunity that came at the cost of American lives. I am hopeful.


161 posted on 12/05/2007 4:50:19 AM PST by SueRae
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To: MaxMax

I did the translation myself as Arabic is my native language.p> However I gave a link for the whole speech in Arabic and I even showed the Arabic statement in Arabic in one of my later post on the thread in case someone want to do the translation using google


162 posted on 12/05/2007 4:50:49 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

Not till we kill the last two hundred. EVery last one of them ought to die.

Oh Lord, I have turned bloodthirsty.


163 posted on 12/05/2007 4:55:57 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: jveritas

I love the sound of this but it still scares me. It’s like a snake you find and give it a hard whack. It looks dead but you still don’t reach down and pick it up until you cut the head off with a shovel.


164 posted on 12/05/2007 5:08:49 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: mplsconservative; schlockandflaws
Schlock, you seem upset by the great news of victory. This man is the spokesman for Al Qaeda in Iraq and what he said is what Al Qaeda told him to say, there is no argument about this.
165 posted on 12/05/2007 5:28:02 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: School of Rational Thought
Here is the source of the whole speech in Arabic if you would like to translate it:

http://ia360631.us.archive.org/3/items/kalemh/1.doc

If you like to translate the important quote from the speech which I based my thread upon please translate this one:

ومع هذا فالمهاجرون اليوم في بلاد الرافدين زهدوا في الدنيا وسارعوا إلى لقاء ربهم بعد ما ضحوابأموالهم ودمائهم تارة بالعمليات الاستشهادية وتارة يقذفون أنفسهم في نحورالعدو حتى لم يبقَ منهم اليوم في عراقنا الحبيب إلا مئتا مهاجر

I did the translation myself as Arabic is my native language but you may want to use google translation or other free translating software if you wish to confirm what I posted.

166 posted on 12/05/2007 5:33:45 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

Who can you trust ? not politicians

Enlightening

Below is some very interesting data reference deaths in the military.
I guarantee you will not read this in your local newspaper nor will you
see it on the daily news broadcast. I pray this will you to enlighten folks
around you to the brave and courageous young people serving in our military.

Deaths in the Military

1980 .......... 2,392
1981 .......... 2,380
1982 .......... 2,318
1983 ........ 2,465
1984 .......... 1,999
1985 .......... 2,252
1986 ......... 1,984
1987 .......... 1,983
1988 .......... 1,819
1989 ......... 1,636
1990 ......... 1,508
1991 .......... 1,787
1992 ......... 1,293
1993 .......... 1,213
1994 ......... 1,075
1995 ......... 1,040
1996 .......... 974
1997 .......... 817
1998 ......... 826
1999 .......... 795
2000 ......... 774
2001 ...... .... 890
2002 .......... 1007
2003 ......... 1,410 [534*]
2004 .......... 1,887 [900*]
2005 ......... [919*]
2006 ......... [920*]

Figures so noted with an asterisk (*) indicates deaths as a result of
Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom.

You may initially feel confused when you look at these figures
—especially
when you see that in 1980, during the term of President Jimmy Carter,
there
were 2,392 US military fatalities. What this clearly indicates is that
our
media and our liberal politicians pick and choose and tend to present
only
those facts that support their agenda driven reporting. Another fact
our
left media and politicians like to slant is that these brave men and
women
losing their lives are minorities. Wrong again - The latest census
shows the
following:

European descent (white) ..... 69.12%
Hispanic .... 12.5%
African American ..... 12.3%
Asia n ..... 3.7%
Native American .... 1.0%
Other ..... 2.6%

The fatalities over the past three years in Iraqi Freedom are:

European descent (white) .... 74.31%
Hispanic .... 10.74%
African American ... 9.67%
Asian ..... 1.81%
Native American .... 1.09%
Other .... 2.33%

These statistics are published by DOD and may be viewed at:

HYPERLINK

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf


167 posted on 12/05/2007 5:36:55 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: jveritas
I did the translation myself as Arabic is my native language

Thank you so much for your good work.

168 posted on 12/05/2007 5:39:22 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: KeyLargo

Excellent source!


169 posted on 12/05/2007 5:40:11 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: jveritas

Time to really crank up the pressure.

Mark


170 posted on 12/05/2007 5:41:56 AM PST by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: KeyLargo

Bookmark


171 posted on 12/05/2007 5:43:24 AM PST by avacado
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To: KeyLargo; maica

very interesting statistics....Too bad the DBM isn’t interested in facts.


172 posted on 12/05/2007 5:44:52 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: DoughtyOne
I doubt very much that any major news outlet will pick up on this one. Of course they have mentioned the other parts of his speech where he called for every terrorists left in Iraq to use at least 3 bombs to attacks Iraqi and US forces including the Sunnis who turned against Al Qaeda, according to the speech this new wave of terrorist attacks will end on January 21 2008.
173 posted on 12/05/2007 5:46:45 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Shelayne
Thank you very much Shelayne. I will not hold by breath waiting for the media to report this, it is too much of good news to be reported.
174 posted on 12/05/2007 5:49:11 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Earthdweller

Do not you love to see VICTORY parades in US cities and towns for our troops coming from Iraq sometimes next year?


175 posted on 12/05/2007 5:52:12 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

What a great idea!


176 posted on 12/05/2007 6:04:55 AM PST by maica
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To: abigkahuna

Of course it’s fishy. They are just waiting for us to stand down and then they’ll be back.

Yes, we won the ‘war’ - it’s the occupation that’s going to be the problem. Wars don’t stay won in the ME. That’s been the case for centuries and it ain’t gonna stop now.


177 posted on 12/05/2007 6:45:13 AM PST by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: jveritas

I say we kill 2000 more just to be safe.


178 posted on 12/05/2007 6:51:46 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: phatus maximus

We’ll leave when the Iraqi’s finish learning how to play whack-a-mole. I saw an interview with a Colonel who was talking about how he encourages the Iraqis to integrate. He said he shows them all the white, black, brown, etc. Americans working together and reminds them that we don’t historically all get along that well either, but when we pull together in the military we make the best fighting force the world has ever seen. It’s hard to argue with that kind of logic.


179 posted on 12/05/2007 7:01:02 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"Anyone think this could be a disinfo campaign on the part of the terrorists? I am skeptical of every word out of their lying mouths."

It's out of character for them to admit weakness, so I share your suspicions.
180 posted on 12/05/2007 7:07:57 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: jveritas

My interpretation is a bit different. Yes, it’s good news. From the Iranian view, Iraq is lost, and we have troops in Iraq that could attack Iran and destroy their nuclear weapons program. Those troops are no longer tied down by violence in Iraq, so the Iranians want us to declare victory and go home, leaving an active Iranian nuclear weapons program that is close to mass production (3 months to 3 years).


181 posted on 12/05/2007 7:12:25 AM PST by bIlluminati (You can get more with a kind word and a Colt .45 than you can with a kind word alone.)
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To: jveritas
We won this war

Not yet......but we did win this battle!!

182 posted on 12/05/2007 7:25:02 AM PST by freedombird
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; Founding Father; milford421

Ping.


183 posted on 12/05/2007 7:27:33 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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To: bIlluminati
We are not leaving Iraq despite that we won there. The Iraqi government wants the US to have permanent military bases in Iraq.
184 posted on 12/05/2007 7:28:33 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Anyone think this could be a disinfo campaign on the part of the terrorists? I am skeptical of every word out of their lying mouths.

I agree, Let's be skeptical of the enemy. When there are no more press releases by the enemy we will know that Victory is close.

185 posted on 12/05/2007 7:37:16 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk

As long as there is one enemy with a computer left alive, or access to enemy media, there will still be press releases. And that is STILL victory!


186 posted on 12/05/2007 7:39:14 AM PST by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: jveritas; Dog; LS; Allegra
"...he called for every terrorists left in Iraq to use at least 3 bombs to attacks Iraqi and US forces including the Sunnis who turned against Al Qaeda, according to the speech this new wave of terrorist attacks will end on January 21 2008."

I noted in an earlier thread that the terrorists weren't surging very well. I cited some stats back then to show that while Al Qaeda was able to ramp up, that they were never able to ramp up enough to matter, and that they couldn't sustain even those feeble increases for long.

I speculated that based on the stats of the past 6 months that Al Qaeda *was* surging already...that what was left of their forces was doing everything that they could (even though their overall lethality was declining each month).

And here lies an insurmountable problem for Al Qaeda: they were surging in the past 6 months in order to make it appear as though they hadn't been damaged as much as reality would dictate, and their history shows that they can't keep up such efforts for long...which means that their lethality is about to drop off of a cliff.

It's like they have been playing 11-man football with only 8 men; those 8 men were sprinting in order to make a game of it, but they can only sprint for so long. Now they are down to just 2 men ... and those 2 can't even sprint any longer.

It's over. Al Qaeda has been defeated. I'm confident that U.S. casualties in Iraq will plummet in December and January even though Al Qaeda is speechifying for a grand "surge" of their own in public.

Won't happen. Not on the ground where it counts.

187 posted on 12/05/2007 7:47:03 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Excellent post.


188 posted on 12/05/2007 7:52:23 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
"So the terrorist flypaper theory was valid after all? Will Bush’s opponents apologize to him?"

You must be kidding. Being a liberal means never having to say you are sorry.

189 posted on 12/05/2007 7:56:56 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: jveritas

You have been one of the most decisive rhetorical forces in favor of our troops since the beginning of the Iraq war.

Thanks so much for your great work.


190 posted on 12/05/2007 8:08:03 AM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: lonestar67

Just doing my little duty my FRiend.


191 posted on 12/05/2007 8:15:33 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

JV, you are one of my favorite Freepers! You do the work that many of us wish we could do ourselves. You truly are an asset to our team!


192 posted on 12/05/2007 8:19:46 AM PST by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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To: Paradox

Thank you very much, I am proud to be in the company of so many great freepers.


193 posted on 12/05/2007 8:25:28 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

Yep, if you keep on killing them they will eventually go away. Too bad we can’t now use that same method on our enemies here in Congress.


194 posted on 12/05/2007 8:31:33 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: jveritas
Maybe only 200 AQ foreign Terrorists. How about the Iranians> They are not AQ but they have more dangerous fish to fry than even AQ.
195 posted on 12/05/2007 8:36:54 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: arthurus
Yes the statement by Baghdadi only refers to Al Qaeda foreign non Iraqi terrorists. The Iranian terrorist regime is mainly operating in proxy style in Iraq using shia terrorist militias mainly the Mahdi Army (Jaish Al Mahdi) that are led by Al Sadr . Now for the last six months Al Sadr and his terrorist militia were laying low and I believe that they are not going to rise again.
196 posted on 12/05/2007 8:41:09 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: abigkahuna

” Bogus Mr. Baghdadi”
Just to make this clear, I am not this man! I am Bogus Pachysandra, the Doctor!


197 posted on 12/05/2007 8:42:46 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Steel Wolf

You said:
“AQI is a media monster that can’t survive without camera time.”

What a profound and truth-filled statement! The sorry-a$$ world media has been feeding this very same monster for years. What a cash cow for them. Wonder where they are going to go now....


198 posted on 12/05/2007 8:49:22 AM PST by austinaero
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To: jveritas

Sadly, talk to any liberal, and they will tell you that there has been no progress in Iraq and the troops should immediately be withdrawn. The liberals have lost. Our brave men and women and all who have supported this war have won.


199 posted on 12/05/2007 8:49:39 AM PST by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: Pinkbell

Amen. The traitors here at home and the terrorists abroad have bet everything they have on America’s defeat in Iraq, they are now both utterly defeated.


200 posted on 12/05/2007 8:53:55 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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