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The French and their gun laws
Washington Times ^ | December 5, 2007 | Paul Belien

Posted on 12/05/2007 8:29:47 AM PST by 3AngelaD

On Sunday evening Nov. 25 in Villiers-le-Bel, an immigrant suburb to the north of Paris, two youths steal a motorbike and go joyriding. They collide at high speed with a police vehicle that just happens to be passing by. The two youths die on the spot. Villiers-le-Bel is one of France's 751 "zones urbaines sensibles" (sensitive urban areas). These are no-go zones where radical Muslims hold sway. Almost 5 million people, or 8 percent of the French population, live in such zones. In May, Nicolas Sarkozy won the French presidential elections with the promise that he was going to reclaim them for the republic.

So far the "lost territories" have not been reclaimed. Following the death of the two boys, youths went on the rampage in Villiers-le-Bel. They blamed the two policemen in the vehicle for "murdering" the boys "because the police should not have been there." During three nights of rioting, several police stations, schools and shops were burned to the ground. When the authorities sent in the police, almost 200 policemen got injured — many of them by guns.

"We were attacked from all sides by youths armed with hunting rifles," one of the officers said. "The kids were shooting at us. I've never seen anything like it. It was like in a movie."...

Meanwhile, a horror movie was taking place just around the corner. ....

There is no Second Amendment in Europe. Even European politicians from the so-called "right," like Sarkozy, are horrified at the suggestion that citizens should be allowed to protect themselves against criminals....

The result is that in France only the criminals are armed, while decent citizens, even those as brave as Anne-Lorraine, perish.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: banglist; eussr; france; islam; nogo; terror; violence
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This article goes on to describe the murder of a French woman by a Turkish serial murderer-rapist on the Paris metro, to discuss why the guy was on the streets in the first place, and talks about what happens to French people who speak up for the right to defend oneself.
1 posted on 12/05/2007 8:29:49 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

I don’t think anyone in Washington will take notice.


2 posted on 12/05/2007 8:33:14 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: 3AngelaD

The French, and Euro-leftists in general, are idiots. They are pansies and wimps. The though of fighting to protect ones’ self is a frightening thought. Worse than that, they are a bunch of hand-wringing pandering socialists. What a club of fools.

Yes, Frenchie, only your CRIMINALS have guns. Idiots.


3 posted on 12/05/2007 8:34:29 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Not to sound cold, but this is a French problem. No one else can do a thing about it, if they don’t.

For that matter, the US is welcoming in Muslim immigrants with open arms, and paying their way here. The Tyson story is only the tip of the iceberg. Why would we help the French if we’re unwilling to help ourselves?


4 posted on 12/05/2007 8:36:12 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 3AngelaD

“Villiers-le-Bel is one of France’s 751 “zones urbaines sensibles” (sensitive urban areas). These are no-go zones where radical Muslims hold sway. Almost 5 million people, or 8 percent of the French population, live in such zones. In May, Nicolas Sarkozy won the French presidential elections with the promise that he was going to reclaim them for the republic. “

Sorry, but those areas have gone the way of Kosovo now and the French have nothing to say about it. If it’s good enough for Serbia to be partitioned by invading muzzies, then it’s good enough for France, and also for the American Southwest.


5 posted on 12/05/2007 8:36:57 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: 3AngelaD
A Judge Warns: France Should Prepare for Civil War

As Iraq is closed down to jihadi, they'll want somewhere else to satisfy their pathological desires. I wonder how many of them have been drifting toward Paris lately?

I also wonder how much of the bloody horror that is slouching toward France and the rest of EU has been postponed by the grinding of jihadi meat stock in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere?

6 posted on 12/05/2007 8:37:19 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: EagleUSA

Puts the correct twist on the anti-gun slogan, “Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns.”


7 posted on 12/05/2007 8:37:57 AM PST by fredhead (What this world needs is a few more Rednecks - Charlie Daniels)
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To: Cicero

I believe the point is, not to try to help the helpless, hopeless frenchie-french, but to observe their situation and try to change our course before we end up there also...


8 posted on 12/05/2007 8:40:28 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (You can't seriously tell me you think we need more laws, or that we don't already have too many.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Sarko has a lot to work on.


9 posted on 12/05/2007 8:40:38 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: Cicero

“Not to sound cold, but this is a French problem. No one else can do a thing about it, if they don’t”

Actually, we should be bombing the hell out of France until they surrender the territories to the Muzzies, if we want to be consistent. If we’re going to help the muzzies murder innocent Serbs, then we should help the muzzies murder innocent Frenchies.

And we should just get a head start on the next phase by bombing the hell out of Arizona, New Mexico and California until they surrender to the Mexican invaders.

Fair is fair.


10 posted on 12/05/2007 8:42:04 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Cicero

My point was; If we don’t recognize that this can happen here, whose fault is it ?


11 posted on 12/05/2007 8:42:09 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Cicero

***Why would we help the French if we’re unwilling to help ourselves?***

‘Cuz we’re becoming good little globalists.


12 posted on 12/05/2007 8:42:18 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: 3AngelaD

“When the authorities sent in the police, almost 200 policemen got injured — many of them by guns.”

While the law-abiding, tax-paying French citizens have no way to defend themselves against the Muslim thugs.


13 posted on 12/05/2007 8:43:04 AM PST by 353FMG (Hillary - Al Qaeda's Dream Woman)
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To: 3AngelaD

From the very end of the article:

“There is no Second Amendment in Europe. Even European politicians from the so-called “right,” like Mr. Sarkozy, are horrified at the suggestion that citizens should be allowed to protect themselves against criminals. Last year, Mr. Sarkozy told French radio: “Security is the responsibility of the state. I am against the private ownership of firearms. If you are assaulted by an armed burglar, he will use his weapon more effectively than you anyway, so you are risking your life.”

The result is that in France only the criminals are armed, while decent citizens, even those as brave as Anne-Lorraine, perish.”

Well, the good will I felt after the eletion of Sarkozy is now flushed. He is a statist like the others. Same sh!t, different texture.


14 posted on 12/05/2007 8:43:05 AM PST by KeyesPlease
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To: EagleUSA
The though of fighting to protect ones’ self is a frightening thought

And, illegal in England from many reports/stories I have read.

Just submit and you'll be just fine....or dead. But not arrested!!

15 posted on 12/05/2007 8:44:25 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: 3AngelaD
Following the death of the two boys, youths went on the rampage in Villiers-le-Bel. They blamed the two policemen in the vehicle for "murdering" the boys "because the police should not have been there."

That is the line that really stood out to me. "The police should not have been there"????? Amazing!

16 posted on 12/05/2007 8:44:41 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (John 3:16.)
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To: Joe Brower

For the list.


17 posted on 12/05/2007 8:50:58 AM PST by KeyesPlease
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To: 3AngelaD

Disarming innocent civilians does not protect innocent civilians. All it does is puts them at a serious disadvantage to the criminal class.


18 posted on 12/05/2007 8:53:18 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: yellowdoghunter

That is one of the main points of this story. There are huge areas of France that the French no longer control, that the police cannot enter, and where Sharia law prevails, not French law. The French have lost part of their territory to Muslim immigrants. Charles Martel is spinning in his grave, along with all those Frenchmen who died in the Battle of Tours that stopped Islamic expansionism into Europe from Spain.


19 posted on 12/05/2007 8:55:08 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

One would have thought that the Fwench would have learned a thing or two from WW2, specifically that the populace can only resist a tyranny if it is armed. We dropped millions of Liberator pistols all over France (and other nations) - single shot .45 handguns that could kill a German soldier. Many were used to do so, and to grab the soldier’s rifle, ammo and grenades, with which additional weapons were acquired. Armed French citizens helped to liberate their own nation - then. Now, even Sarko is a statist pig. Very disappointing - but they deserve who and what they elect.


20 posted on 12/05/2007 8:56:11 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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