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Greece set to buy Russian (infantry) fighting vehicles
Ria Novosti,Russia ^ | 05/ 12/ 2007

Posted on 12/05/2007 9:05:55 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: VeniVidiVici

SU-122 type mobile artillery


21 posted on 12/06/2007 7:29:43 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SampleMan
A lot of the reports I’ve read about these tin cans indicate that their suspension system leaves a lot to be desired, resulting in a lot of non-combat injuries (bruises, concussions, spinal injuries, and the occasional broken bone) just from riding in them.
22 posted on 12/06/2007 7:46:16 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: SampleMan
Yes. 2S1. 122mm self-propelled howitzer.

"самоходная артиллерийская установка" Or SAU-122.

23 posted on 12/06/2007 8:16:23 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: WLR
What planet are you from?

A stryker gives far more protection against mines and most IEDs than any IFV. The M2 gives a higher degree of ballistic protection even baseline than a BMP3.

A BMP3s armor is weak. It’s basic layout and design unlike a M2 limits the use of certain ERA as well (It's the suspension that can't handle the weight).

The problem is that what the DoD needs in Iraq is a glorified police car in concept, but with far greater firepower and protection. Convoys, routine patrols of routes, responding to some call for help, after a bomb etc. is not what tracked vehicles with low speeds, high maintenance intervals (when driven), loud, and succepable to IEDs were made for. The HMMWV in the versions they are building them now is MORE suited for what we’re doing. That does not mean the HMMWV will stop an RPG, or can deal with every IED, but it’s as a concept a more suited design for meeting the mission specific requirements.

24 posted on 12/07/2007 10:57:30 AM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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First thing you do in a monkey model BMP, is disable the auto loader.

Otherwise, it will stuff the gunner in the breach.


25 posted on 12/07/2007 11:04:48 AM PST by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: AppyPappy

They are a deathtrap. To make room for more troops, the fuel tanks are mounted on the outside of the vehicle on the rear doors. A hit that piereces them and the very thin armor of the doors will incinerate the occupants.


26 posted on 12/09/2007 9:31:38 AM PST by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Thoe are 2S1 “Gvozdik” 122 SP Howitzer.


27 posted on 12/09/2007 9:33:51 AM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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