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Chertoff to deliver Texas landowners ultimatum on border fence
The Houston Chronicle/AP ^ | Dec. 6, 2007 | SUZANNE GAMBOA

Posted on 12/06/2007 1:17:42 PM PST by SwinneySwitch

WASHINGTON — Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff is giving Texas landowners opposed to a border fence one last chance to allow access to their land before he takes court action against them, a Texas senator said Thursday.

Sen. John Cornyn said letters from the Department of Homeland Security are expected to go out Friday. But for those who refuse access, the department would likely seek a court order to enter the property, he said.

"He assured me that negotiations would continue and his hope is the vast majority of these cases could be resolved without litigation, maybe in handful of cases litigation would be required," he said.

A Homeland Security Department spokesman was not immediately available for comment.

President Bush last year approved 700 miles of fencing and barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border. Unlike other states, most land in Texas is in private hands.

Some landowners along the border have opposed government plans to build fencing to curb illegal immigration on the Texas-Mexico border.

"All that will do is fire people up more down here," John McClung, president of the Texas Produce Association, said of the impending letters.

"Nothing makes a landowner more unhappy than the idea of condemnation of land, the idea of being forced to turn land over to government," McClung said.

Several members of the group could lose access to the Rio Grande, which they rely on for irrigating crops or to rich farm land that abuts the river.

Opponents have criticized the government for failing to keep them fully informed on fence plans and refusing to listen to residents' proposals for alternatives to the fence. Others say the fence is a waste of taxpayers' money and will hurt border economies.

"It's just a continuation of a battle with our government. We are for security, however the way they are approaching solving security problems, we just disagree with," said McAllen Mayor Richard Cortez. "We just don't see how a non-continuous fence, when you have 6,000 miles of land borders, is going to stop terrorism and illegal immigration. We continue to believe it is a waste of taxpayers' money."

Federal officials say they need access to the land to assess possible sites for the fence. They say the fence is one of several tools being used to curb illegal border crossings, including "virtual fence" and more patrols.

Cornyn said Chertoff told him about 40 landowners have refused to provide access to their land. Of the total, 110 have not responded or can't be located and 258 have given the government the access, a congressional official familiar with the statistics said on condition of anonymity because the Homeland Security Department had not released them.

About 127 miles of land are being considered for the fencing and about 15 miles of that is on property where the government cannot get access, the aide said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; castledoctrine; chertoff; eminentdomain; fence; immigrantlist; kelo; texas
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It's about to hit the fan!
1 posted on 12/06/2007 1:17:43 PM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

THIS is where a proper exercise of eminent domain is warranted.


2 posted on 12/06/2007 1:20:10 PM PST by fishtank (Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I would be in favor a simple choice to those in the pathway.

Do you want to be on the Northside of the fence or the Southside?


3 posted on 12/06/2007 1:21:06 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: flattorney; bigjoesaddle; FryingPan101; AnimalLover; backtothestreets; Olephart; pulaskibush; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


4 posted on 12/06/2007 1:22:26 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: SwinneySwitch
About 127 miles of land are being considered for the fencing and about 15 miles of that is on property where the government cannot get access

127 miles? Thats all? As for those 15 miles, go around them and they can become citizens of Mexico.

5 posted on 12/06/2007 1:25:28 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: SwinneySwitch

If they want access to the river, why not build a gate?

Otherwise, I’m suspect of the reasons.


6 posted on 12/06/2007 1:28:35 PM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

If it was just a developer who wanted Mrs. Crabapples acres for a mall, the bulldozers would have already rolled across her house.


7 posted on 12/06/2007 1:29:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Chertoff has -- and will -- do nothing. Sounds like one more scheme of his to delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay.

So far several US cities have been hit by Islamonazis and Chertoff does NOTHING .. except to delay and work to give them Amnesty.

8 posted on 12/06/2007 1:29:39 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Seems like a simple proposition to me - which side of the fence do they want to be on?

Chertoff et al simply hope to divide and conquer - pitting private property rights against the constitutionally mandated federal charge to protect the borders - and to delay the construction for as long as possible. We of course won't see any of this humming and hawing with the TTC (or gated retirement complexes).

9 posted on 12/06/2007 1:35:25 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: wolfcreek
If they want access to the river, why not build a gate?

Livestock can't use keys or unlock combination padlocks.

But, honestly, based on their actions to date, it sounds like the government has no interest in accommodating the landowners or listening to their (legitimate) requirements.

They're being ham-handed. Either, by nature...or intentionally.

10 posted on 12/06/2007 1:36:47 PM PST by okie01 (.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"...the way they are approaching solving security problems, we just disagree with," said McAllen Mayor Richard Cortez. "We just don't see how a non-continuous fence, when you have 6,000 miles of land borders, is going to stop terrorism and illegal immigration. We continue to believe it is a waste of taxpayers' money."

LMAO! This is hilarious coming from a Democrat Mayor of a federal money sinkhole located 8 miles north of the border.
11 posted on 12/06/2007 1:42:58 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: SwinneySwitch

John McClung, president of the Texas Produce Association opposes the fence. Hmm...Texas Produce Association. Who uses a lot of illegal alien labor?


12 posted on 12/06/2007 1:44:23 PM PST by pelicandriver
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To: M203M4

That’s what makes me think that this is a ploy - that the land selected was picked specifically to cause an uproar and the Chertoff knew at least some landowners would balk.


13 posted on 12/06/2007 1:47:11 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Liberty Valance

“...This is hilarious coming from a Democrat Mayor of a federal money sinkhole located 8 miles north of the border.”

Amen. The eastern third of Mexico is receiving US food stamps and WIC payments. Talk about a federal money sinkhole!


14 posted on 12/06/2007 1:53:56 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: fishtank
There is no proper exercise of eminent domain. I guess you’ve never been a victim of this socialist gimmick.
15 posted on 12/06/2007 1:54:30 PM PST by cannonball
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To: cannonball

The Tennessee Valley Authority was unconstitutional?


16 posted on 12/06/2007 1:55:17 PM PST by Borges
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To: SwinneySwitch

I’ve been to McAllen and that whole area. A lot of those land owners are farmers. They can get water from the Rio Grande through pumping and standard plumbing. The real reason they don’t want a fence is because they rely heavily on illegals to work the fields down there, especially the cane fields. This is about super cheap labor.


17 posted on 12/06/2007 1:56:49 PM PST by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

You may own the land, but you don’t own the border. There is a compelling government interest, here. This is a legitimate use of eminent domain.

Maybe they would prefer it if we fenced around the other side of their property and ceded their land to Mexico so we could have a defensible border...


18 posted on 12/06/2007 1:56:55 PM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: Travis McGee

bttt


19 posted on 12/06/2007 1:58:15 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: thackney

Exactly.


20 posted on 12/06/2007 2:03:42 PM PST by CindyDawg
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