Posted on 12/08/2007 11:19:41 AM PST by PRePublic
Jacob Amir: Palestinians brought problems on themselves A letter to the editor — 12/07/2007 10:07 am
Dear Editor: The authors of the column "Jews need to speak out on abuse of Palestinians" blame Israel for the difficulties facing the residents of Gaza.
One wonders if the authors can imagine what would have happened if, immediately after Israel left the Gaza Strip, all terror activity from there ceased. Which means no rocket launching, no weapons smuggling, no efforts to bomb the border crossing points, no efforts to send suicide murderers into Israel.
Then all the crossing points would have remained open, there would have been free merchandise exchange, thousands of Gazans would have been able to work in Israel, and it would have been possible to travel between the West Bank and Gaza. The Gazan economy would have been much stronger, and the daily life of the citizens would have been much better.
The authors do not tell us that the Palestinians chose to continue with their war of terror. As a result they brought nothing but disaster on their people. They infiltrated into Israel, killing two soldiers and abducting a third. In the last two years, since Israel left the Gaza Strip to the last inch, more than 2,000 Kasam rockets have been fired at Israeli villages and towns.
Like any other country Israel will do its best to protect its citizens.
Jacob Amir, Jerusalem, Israel
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/letters/260896
I'd like to know just what the hell Israel can do, that it hasn't already tried, to placate those murdering pigs.
I think we should butt out and Israel should give them one FINAL warning to lay off. Then act according to their response -- IN A DECISIVE WAY.
The US needs to butt out. Our meddling will do nobody any good. Let Israel do what needs to be done.
In the end, there can be only one.
Either Israel expands to fill all the borders of what is loosely known as “Palestine”, including the West Bank and the Gaza Strip (and ALL of Jerusalem), while the “Palestinians” (who are the descendents of those kicked out of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Saudi Arabia) are expelled back to the lands from whence their fathers and grandfathers came, or the Israelis will be marched into the sea.
Time and again, various parties have tried to get some sort of accommodation between the Israelis and the pseudo-government known as the “Palestinian Authority” which would permit a two-state solution. And every time, the PA has kicked the whole facade to pieces, again and again. It is not for lack of effort on the part of the US State Department and the Israeli government to try to reach some kind of agreement with the “Palestinians”, the other side only wants one outcome - that the Jews be expelled from the Middle East forever.
Victimhood is the only defining characteristic of the PA.
And ungrateful victims at that.
Just before the 1948 war, the Palis were encouraged to leave by the arab states. The reasoning went, "We are going to eradicate the Jews. After that, you can come back and take anything you want."
"Oh, by the way, any arab still found when we invade will be deemed an Israeli sympathizer and executed."
The idiots believed them.
refreshing and not heard much in the US media.
And your source for that is ... what?
“Arab-Israeli Wars” (1982) by Chaim Herzog.
One wonders if the authors can imagine what would have happened if, immediately after Israel left the Gaza Strip, Israel left the West Bank, split up Jerusalem, and negotiated a right of return (or compensation).
One wonders if that would result in no rocket launching, no weapons smuggling, no efforts to bomb the border crossing points, no efforts to send suicide murderers into Israel.
One wonders.
ISRAEL AND THE PALESTINIAN QUESTION
~By Terence Prittie
The Palestinian Arab Question is of recent origin. There are several reasons for this:
1. There has never, in the whole history of the area known today as Palestine, been a Palestinian Arab state.
Palestine, between the river Jordan and the Mediterranean, has been ruled, since the Arab invasion in the seventh century, by Bedouin, Christian Crusaders, Mamelukes, Turks, and finally, from 1919 to 1948, by the British.
The area has generally been an outlying province, as during the four and a half centuries of Turkish rule which preceded the British Mandate.
Historical Palestine included an area east of the river Jordan, which has been part of the Emirate, and later Kingdom of Jordan, since 1921. It could be argued that this is the only Palestinian Arab "state" which has ever existed.
2. Because there has never been any other Palestinian state, there has not until very recently been a well-defined Palestinian national identity. The Palestinians Arabs can hardly be blamed for this; they have been subjected to continual invasion and alien rule.
In addition, they were a very small community, probably less than 480,000 in all, up to the time of the British Mandate. Arabs conventionally regarded the area in which they lived as "southern Syria".
3. The principal failure of the Palestinian Arabs to create a well-developed sense of national identity occurred during the period of the British Mandate. The Jewish community established its own institutions and its own instinct for nationhood during this period. The Palestinian Arabs did not, although they roughly doubled in numbers thanks to Jewish immigration and increased material prosperity under British rule.
4. The 1947 United Nations Partition Plan gave the Palestinian Arabs a state of their own. Not only did they reject the UN Plan, but after joining in a war waged against Israel by the armies of five outside Arab countries, they made no attempt to set up a state of their own when the fighting ended.
The Arabs of the West Bank accepted occupation and annexation by the Kingdom of Jordan, while the Arabs of the Gaza Strip were placed under Egyptian military occupation. Significantly, it is precisely in these areas that it is now proposed to set up a Palestinian "mini-state".
5. Between 1949, when armistice agreements were signed between Israel and her Arab neighbors, and 1967, when the West Bank and the Gaza Strip fell into Israeli hands, neither Jordan nor Egypt made any serious attempt to encourage a Palestinian national identity or to give the Palestinian Arabs even the kernel of a state of their own. Not a word was said about the Palestinian Arabs right of self-determination, save in so far as it concerned the right claimed by Palestinian Arab refugees to return to their old homes.
6. The existing Arab states, equally, have made no serious attempt to set up or sponsor a Palestinian government-in-exile. This could have been done at any time after 1949, and it could have developed a political philosophy and an understanding of governmental aims, methods and institutions.
To sum up, one can say that the Palestinians Arabs showed little ability to evolve a full and normal national consciousness, and the outside Arab world showed singularly little interest in them and no desire to give them the help and advice, which they needed so badly.
This failure of the Arab world to look after "its own" had nothing to do whatever with the Israelis. It was a projection of the previous history of the Palestinians within the Arab world, and of a basic lack of Arab unity.
Chaim Herzog was a man of many accomplishments -- Major in the British Army, Major General in the IDF, commentator on Israeli radio, Ambassador to the UN, President of Israel.
Herzog probably knew a lot about many things, but maybe he's not the most unbiased source of information about Palestinian refugees.
The First Palestinian State
Arutz Sheva ^ | 12-10-03 | Emanuel A. Winston
Posted on 12/10/2003 11:47:28 AM PST by SJackson
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1037839/posts
Brilliant idea, if a dose of appeasement does not work try even more appeasement.
Hasn’t it been almost 60 years now that the Palestinians have been at war with Israel? In that time, haven’t they lost several serious wars against Israel? In all of that time, haven’t they refused offer after offer of their own statehood, their own economy and their own prosperity? In all that time, have they ever chosen anything but shootings and bombings? And, of course, the required demonstrations of protest and rage? If so, what can any reasonable person conclude from that?
I take $100 from you, then after 40 years of negotiations I give you back $25. Why aren’t you happy? And you have the nerve to ask for the other $75? Why, I’m thinking of taking that $25 back, you ungrateful person!
No, the Arabs. The Palestinians were displaced during the wars in that 60 year period.
The First Intifada (1987 - 1993) was a mass uprising by the Palestinians against Israeli military occupation. The Second Intifada started in 2000 and continues.
You can thank the United Nations for the turmoil in the middle east. They were the ones who decided to redraw the national boundaries.
(http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html)
I take $100 from you, then after 40 years of negotiations I give you back $25. Why aren’t you happy? And you have the nerve to ask for the other $75? Why, I’m thinking of taking that $25 back, you ungrateful person!
Let’s see, I move in next door, you and your neighbors attack me, I defend myself, you leave on the advise of your neighbors, after 40 years I give you some of your property back and still you attack me.
If it was me, I’d figure it was time to clean out the whole neighborhood.
They say its dangerous when you start making lists, but I imagine that if you ranked peoples by their contribution to mankind, the palies would be at the very bottom.
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