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Palestinians brought problems on themselves
madison ^ | 12-07-2007

Posted on 12/08/2007 11:19:41 AM PST by PRePublic

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To: An Old Man

WHO started the 67 war????

Funny I’ve seen maps dated in the 1800’s that clearly called the land Palestine... I’d post one if I knew how..


21 posted on 12/08/2007 6:00:33 PM PST by AH-1S Pilot
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To: robertpaulsen

I don’t wonder because Arafat had all that and more and flushed it all away. Made Bubba look like a fool. No that he and halfbright needed any help!


22 posted on 12/08/2007 6:23:05 PM PST by tpanther
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To: robertpaulsen

Cute...how about I take $100, give you back $25 and ask that if you simply quit breaking everything in sight, I’ll agree to give you $25 back, then $25 more and so on... perhaps not only with interest, but even make you a partner so you can make thousands, and your response is you murder my mother in a cafe.


23 posted on 12/08/2007 6:25:22 PM PST by tpanther
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To: PRePublic

Just pawns in a much bigger game...only these are Israeli lives. Maybe someday the world will understand 2,000 Qassams( flying garbage cans) were already fired when the IDF & IAF comes in and hopefully cleans house, but I bet the timelines , the BS from the UN and the “unnecessary Israeli agression” baloney from all sides will be the judge and jury the Israel is horrible mass murderers on the scale of Hitler....funny thing is, the Arabs love Adolf and Mein Kampf is still a best seller over there. Oh the hyocrisy, argh!


24 posted on 12/08/2007 6:31:05 PM PST by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. DDE)
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To: AH-1S Pilot

Yes, Palestine is an area, not a culture or a people though. Basically what is now Israel prior to 1948 was a desolate wasteland, only when the Jews got their homeland back after having it stolen from them for thousands of years, did it become an area of contention. Israelis made it what it is today.

Israel defended itself in 1967. Arab armies massed themselves all along Israel’s borders, mobilized their Air Forces, tank divisions, etc. Israel struck before they could annihilate Israel essentially.

Outmanned, fiughting with fewer tanks, French jets...but superior tactics.


25 posted on 12/08/2007 6:33:43 PM PST by tpanther
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To: robertpaulsen
What can you say when a bunch of thieves decide to rule the world.

Thanks for the link! The maps pretty much show what that bunch of british thieves were up to.

The Sykes-Picot Agreement in 1916 coupled with the Balfour Declaration of 1917 established "Palestine", mandated to Great Britain. (http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html) You might want to read all about muhammad at that same site. The author has his facts prety much spot on.

http://allaboutmuhammad.com/page8.html

26 posted on 12/08/2007 7:19:35 PM PST by An Old Man (Socialism is a tool designed to "socialize" (i.e., confiscate, not create) wealth)
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To: robertpaulsen

If after 40 years you are still expecting $100, you need to see a psychologist for an obsessive-compulsive disorder.

And yes, after forty years, if I actually did get some money back, I’d be pretty happy. Since I would have long since written the whole thing off as a bad idea.


27 posted on 12/08/2007 7:46:15 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Republicans are just Socialism-lite.)
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To: tet68
"Let’s see, I move in next door"

You were next door then you moved into my garage.

28 posted on 12/09/2007 5:55:21 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: tpanther
"because Arafat had all that and more"

He had all that and less. The West Bank under Oslo looked like swiss cheese -- Indonesia without the water. Who would consider that a serious offer?

What a joke!

29 posted on 12/09/2007 6:07:07 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: An Old Man
"The maps pretty much show what that bunch of british thieves were up to."

They also show there was a "Palestine", contrary to your assertion.

30 posted on 12/09/2007 6:15:52 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

A joke is that he would even get an offer AT ALL! He’s demonstrated innumerable times he wasn’t interested in peace but the destruction of Israel.

The Israelis have demonstrated time and time again that they’ve been willing to compromise, at the very least negotiate, while they’ve gotten death and murder in return:

The details were not disclosed formally, but according to media reports Barak’s offer included:

Israeli redeployment from 95% of the West Bank and 100% of the Gaza Strip

The creation of a Palestinian state in the areas of Israeli withdrawal

The removal of isolated settlements and transfer of the land to Palestinian control

Other Israeli land exchanged for West Bank settlements remaining under Israeli control

Palestinian control over East Jerusalem, including most of the Old City

“Religious Sovereignty” over the Temple Mount, replacing Israeli sovereignty in effect since 1967

In return Arafat had to declare the “end of conflict” and agree that no further claims on Israel could be made in the future. Despite the considerable concessions by Israel, Arafat chose not to negotiate, not to make a counter-offer but to just walk out. This was typical of the Palestinian leader’s style: offer nothing, just say no and wait for more concessions. In fact, the Palestinian negotiating team did make concessions during the negotiating process, but Arafat himself never agreed. It was not the specific terms that caused the summit to collapse, but rather the lack of a counterproposal. In addition, Arafat continued to insist on the Palestinian demand for a “right of return” of refugees to Israel, a demand that Israel cannot accept under any peace plan since it would mean the end of Israel as a Jewish state.

A joke indeed!

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1991to_now_peace_process_outline.php


31 posted on 12/09/2007 7:14:23 AM PST by tpanther
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32 posted on 12/09/2007 7:26:13 AM PST by SJackson (we're gonna change the rules and have voting only on the Internet, then we're gonna win!, Ron Paul)
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To: robertpaulsen

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_independence_refugees_jews_why.php

http://www.netanyahu.org/whattheydont.html

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/charen012699.asp

http://www.mideastweb.org/palpop.htm

http://www.zionism-israel.com/impact_of_zionism.htm

http://www.mideastweb.org/oslofailed.htm

http://www.mideastweb.org/israel_disengagement_map_2005.htm


33 posted on 12/09/2007 7:35:52 AM PST by tpanther
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To: robertpaulsen

That’s simply not true. While Jews were moving into “Palestine” in the early part of the 20th century, so too were arabs. IN FACT by 1948, there were TWICE as many arabs as Jews. 1.3 million to 650,000.


34 posted on 12/09/2007 7:38:32 AM PST by tpanther
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To: tpanther
I'm talking about after 1948.
35 posted on 12/09/2007 7:49:16 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: tpanther
"Israeli redeployment from 95% of the West Bank"

Why 95%? Why not 100%?

36 posted on 12/09/2007 7:51:27 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: PRePublic

Yep, if they had only elected that woman who ran against Arafat.


37 posted on 12/09/2007 8:09:10 AM PST by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: robertpaulsen

Why anything at all? It’s not like it’s some secret that 100% wouldn’t have been enough.

How do you “negotiate” with someone that clearly wants you dead and destroyed?


38 posted on 12/09/2007 8:42:38 AM PST by tpanther
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To: robertpaulsen

Which is even worse.

The U.N. created Israel in 1948 and the arabs attacked them. Several times over the next several decades, losing each and every time.

War is war, except in Israel’s case, it’s the only modern winner of multiple wars in modern history that gives back lands won.

Over and over and over again.


39 posted on 12/09/2007 8:44:45 AM PST by tpanther
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To: tpanther
"How do you “negotiate” with someone that clearly wants you dead and destroyed?"

Didn't Jordan want Israel dead and destroyed? Didn't Egypt want Israel dead and destroyed?

I'll ask again. Why 95%? Why not 5% more?

40 posted on 12/09/2007 8:55:17 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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