Posted on 12/09/2007 4:55:31 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, December 9th, 2007
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Former Gov. Mike Huckabee, R-Ark., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., and Chuck Hagel, R-Neb.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del.; actor John Cusack.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio.
comment on Obama’s rally signs: BELIEVE is a word that must poll powerfully with some constituencies.
It got a Mayor of the collapsing city of Baltimore promoted to the Governor’s Mansion in Annapolis.
One of the Christmas catalogues that came to my home this year offered various items with BELIEVE TRUST ASK RECEIVE as a design on them.
Note: nothing about DOING, just GETTING!
Once the illegals’ status is legalized, we are finished
Finished? As in, liberals will take over the planet? Isn't there a much higher, say 100%, chance that that will actually happen if Hillary is elected? Would it not be better to have any Republican in office - even one that may go that route but also may not? I realize that it would be the lesser evil in your eyes, but even the lesser evil is better than absolute evil, in all areas of life.
Your thinking permeates Freepublic at this time - it's a sad turn of events. I'm thinking that, as you say and as is the course you propose and support - we are simply doomed. God save us from the Conservatives as well as the liberals.
I am just listening to Huckabee and McCain on FNS now, and both men are speaking from the position of assumption that CIA agents tortured detainees.
Can’t we have a little loyalty to the men who interrogated those terrorist-criminals from the Republican candidates, at least.
I'm not convinced Hillary is ordained as their candidate, and I wonder if Obama isn't a flash in the pan as Democrats wake up to how badly Hillary will do. IF she wins their nomination it will be a result of Democrats willingness to believe anything and Hillary's organization putting pressure on their members. Add in her ability to get donations and it is going to be hard to replace her.
Yeah, conservatives lost in Australia but we won in both Germany and France and the UK is trending more conservative from what I have seen.
The greatest challenge all of us face is educating voters, especially independent or unaffiliated voters. To be honest, Republicans have not done this well in past years. Republicans have to learn to be proactive instead of reactive. We must begin amassing better support from Republicans who are our major donors, as the Democrats have successfully done, to combat the left.
In Colorado, three or four Democrats created the funds for party building. There is no equivalent group of Republicans doing this. My point is, Democrats are organized under the new campaign laws and Republican haven't figured out how to combat it. IF we lose that will be the real underlying reason. Look at both parties websites and the distinction is disappointing. The similar sites around the country I have seen are no better.
This is not doom and gloom but hopefully a wake up call for all of us to do more and do better. The MSM is putting the open CO US Senate seat in the Democrat column for a pick up next year. Don't believe it. Our past major races had moderate and centrist Republicans running. This time we have a fantastic, proud conservative Bob Schaffer who will represent us and I confidently predict he will beat the Boulder liberal Mark Udall.
Ack! I just muted The Oprah...could not stand her “accent” used for the South Carolina folk.
re: the getting 100% argument
The flaw in his arguments lies in the fallacy of assuming that all factors or variables of an issue or matter of concern are equally important. In scientific terminology we would say that all factors are “weighted equally”.
This is simply untrue. Some factors, some “points of consideration” are simply more important than others. Those factors I have referred to in this thread as first principles are so important that they trump nearly all others.
For example, if a political party and candidate promised you everything you wanted, on every issue you could think of, with the single exception that in order to do it, you’d have to give up your freedom of speech, or perhaps your freedom of religion, would you go for it?
Similarly, regarding what to do about illegal aliens, we have all participated in discussions about their relative economic benefits and importance to the nation. These ARE valid and important points to consider, but they are SECONDARY to the issue of WHO, exactly, the United States of America belongs to.
There are only two possible answers:
1. Either this country belongs to its citizens, to the “We the People” of our founding documents, and the decisions about its policies, direction and destiny are to be the expression of their will, through the rule of law... or...
2. It belongs to those who are not US citizens, wherever they may originate, and their wishes and desires shall determine its policies and decisions, e.g. over who may enter and under what criteria, REGARDLESS of what its citizens want....
If the choice is two, then the United States of America is no longer a sovereign nation, it’s merely someone’s administrative unit. Likewise, its people are no longer free citizens, they are merely a manageable labor force. They are subjects.
These are stark choices we face, and until they are decided those other important points of consideration are secondary. Despite their protestations to the contrary, those who insist on the primacy of some of those other points, e.g. that the economic benefits of illegals trumps all other considerations, have already chosen number 2.
This logic applies to other points of consideration, such as the LOST, the UN, the Kyoto treaty, global warming gay marriage, abortion or flag burning amendments, to mention just a few.
These are ALL “important” issues, but they are not all equally important. Some of them represent immediate existential threats to the sovereignty of the United Sates, and thus to the unalienable rights and freedom of its citizens - others do not. Differences and distinctions are important, and discernment of what is what and which is which on the part of the people is absolutely vital.
There is much more which could be said about these matters, but the line in the sand which I have drawn for myself, as has kabar, is that I will no longer tolerate, enable and acquiesce in the bait and switch deceptions of those who attempt to distract us from focusing on the existential first principles necessary for the survival of the Republic, and seek to defuse and dissipate our energies on secondary matters which should properly be dealt with only after those first principles are secured.
I don’t disagree in anyway with what you’re saying. It is exactly how I see things. My only point was that I recognize that I might not be privy to things he is and, even when I disagree with what I think he’s doing, I always have to remind myself that I might not know all that he knows.
Bottom line, I choose to trust him, but I feel free to criticize what he does, even as I admit that he might be right
Juan to Bill on Iran: (yuck, yuck) You wanna beat everybody up...
Your hopes are better invested in Congtress than the WH occupied by Rudy or John or Mike. They will not only destroy the country, they will destroy the GOP.
Your thinking permeates Freepublic at this time - it's a sad turn of events. I'm thinking that, as you say and as is the course you propose and support - we are simply doomed. God save us from the Conservatives as well as the liberals.
If that is your take, you are sadly mistaken. We need to let the GOP and the candidates know that we will not accept the legalization of the status of the illegal aliens in this country. If they don't get that message now, they never will. Don't kill the messenger for the message. The political class and the MSM should be educating the public about the issues involved instead of demagoging it.
Great post Morgan, in two minutes or less blogtalk radio will feature our very own HC—honest conservative interviewing William T.Russell formely Lt.Col Russell who is poised to knock out Murtha, I wil be listening and calling in if the opprtunity presents itself.
It was supposed to be u response to this post, not Morgan's
Food fight? I’m so far behind on everything! #509 was meant to be a reply to to AB!’s #499 but I messed up. No problem you reading it, but I’m sorry if I confused the situation.
I agree totally. Lord knows I may be connected in CO but nationally I would be eaten by the sharks, I’m sure.
It’s no big deal. Read the thread and it will pop out at you. It has been enlightening today, and there are things to agree with coming from both ends. Great posts and great comments from passionate people who really care what happens next year.
Is there a story of subversion, sabotage or incompetence behind that? Did Gen. Powell leave that ticking assignment behind to exact revenge?
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I thought Huck and Rudy both did ok, neither hit a home run.
A quick comment on Fox News Sunday: It was like watching back-to-back extra-base hits.
Mike Huckabee turned in a fine performance, highlighting once again why he is a contender in this race despite his less than stellar conservative record.
John McCain shined in the following segment. He got to flex his formidable foreign policy chops (demonstrating why he too is a contender), and his description of the newly-lit campaign trail in New Hampshire was riveting. McCain was confident, at ease, almost bouyant, and looked about 7 or 8 years younger.
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