Posted on 12/09/2007 6:35:35 PM PST by JRochelle
John McCain on Immigration
Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.
Voting YEA would table (kill) the proposed amendment to prohibit illegal immigrants from receiving Social Security benefits. Voting NAY supports that prohibition, while voting YEA supports immigrants participating in Social Security. Text of amendment:
To reduce document fraud, prevent identity theft, and preserve the integrity of the Social Security system, by ensuring that persons who receive an adjustment of status under this bill are not able to receive Social Security benefits as a result of unlawful activity.
Proponents of the amendment say to vote NAY because:
The Immigration Reform bill would allow people to qualify for social security based on work they did while they were illegally present in the US and illegally working in the US. People who broke the law to come here and broke the law to work here can benefit from their conduct to collect social security.
In some cases, illegal immigrants may have stolen an American citizen’s identity. They may have stolen an American’s social security number to fraudulently work. This amendment corrects this problem.
Opponents of the amendment say to vote YEA because:
Americans understand that for years there are undocumented workers who have tried to follow our laws and be good neighbors and good citizens, and have paid into the Social Security Trust Fund.
Once that person regularizes his or her status, and as they proceed down the path to earned citizenship, they should have the benefit after having followed the law and made those contributions. That is fairness.
We should not steal their funds or empty their Social Security accounts. That is not fair. It does not reward their hard work or their financial contributions.
The amendment proposes to change existing law to prohibit an individual from gaining the benefit of any contributions made while the individual was in an undocumented status. I oppose this amendment and believe it is wrong.
Reference: Preclusion of Social Security Credits; Bill S.Amdt.3985 to S.2611 ; vote number 2006-130 on May 18, 2006
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/John_McCain_Immigration.htm
He did not vote to give SS benefits to illegals!
Even Chris Wallace said that was a LIE!
No fudging, A FLAT OUT LIE.
So Mitt is is a lieing sh!t, and Rudy is a POS, you don’t vote for politicians that lie. Outside of a Lincoln cloning, who are you backing?
FReepers don't resort to hate, only wannabes and election cycle infiltrators bring hate to Free Republic.
Buggar off?
My - how “international”!
Hey loser - I asked you a question.
Which campaign are you working for?
Oh boy blogged down political hacks faking news stories.
Voted in favor of a motion to table?
Relying on a procedural vote is either sickeningly naive or brazenly misleading. You pick.
Nobody is slamming his credentials with fervor. (because they can't and be honest at the same time)
Forget the very accurate vote where McCain and 11 other RINOs joined all the Democrats and were opposed by all of the real Republicans.
Go read post 41 - that is straight from McCain's website - where he clearly says he supports giving social security benefits to illegals.
So are you stupid or a shill? You pick.
Half-truths are lies.
I am getting sick of Romney.
Decisions...decisions....
Petronski, I wouldn't answer. ; )
PSST! (I think it's a loaded question)
From the RSM?
I’m shocked...SHOCKED.
LOL.
Give it up!
I was going to say don’t bother, but yes, bother. We need to put the truth in every thread, not for the people who will ignore the truth to take their shots at candidates they don’t like, but for the random person reading who might actually think some posters know what they are saying, or should be trusted in this matter.
Maybe it’s been so long since he had something nice to say about his candidate, he forgot who it was.
It would be a huge change for him.
It’s like 1984.
Truth is spam
Lies are truth
Can’t have people posting facts here, the goal isn’t the truth, it’s to attack people we don’t like.
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