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1 posted on 12/10/2007 7:13:38 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd; Petronsky; Toddsterpatriot
So far, the potential losses look manageable compared with the savings-and-loan crisis of the 1980s and the tech-stock crash of 2000-02.

And we survived both of those. Imagine that. It might not be doomsday.

2 posted on 12/10/2007 7:16:59 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: shrinkermd

Only if the S&L crises was a hysterically over blown non crises that effects 95% of American home owners not at all.


4 posted on 12/10/2007 7:25:40 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Hillary Clinton has never done one thing right. She thinks that qualifies her to be President?)
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To: shrinkermd

I’ve seen final-tally numbers for the S&L fiasco in the $120B area. With UBS coughing up another $10B in blood today I think we’re up to about $80B so far. We’ll get there, and then we’ll pass it, and then we’ll keep going.


6 posted on 12/10/2007 7:27:51 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: shrinkermd

More scare-mongering so that Wall Street can bail themselves out... meanwhile our dollar goes into the toilet and the rest of us are paying $3 per gallon instead of $2.50 per gallon so that lower interest rates can bail out guys making $5 million bonuses.


9 posted on 12/10/2007 7:34:40 AM PST by ikka
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To: shrinkermd
The more recent twist: Packaging mortgage loans and turning them into securities would make the global economy more resilient if anything went wrong.

Part of the problem is that mortgage loans have been sliced and diced into so many pieces (tranches?), which were sold and resold to the point that it's hard to tell exactly where the rather unsavory pieces are and when they might blow up, if at all. And, the last thing we need is for a fearful and uncertain market to panic.

Something is happening. Perhaps the extent of the problems are hard to fathom, but hopefully the banks will not make the credit crunch worse by going from very loose lending to very tight lending (a shift which affects everyone, even those without mortgages), even in other loan types.

Just remember, though: America survived the Great Depression, but it wasn't pretty.

25 posted on 12/10/2007 8:13:58 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: shrinkermd

As a matter of fact, this has the potential of being far worse than the S&L crisis. We should not let the political use to which the MSM tries to put every economic difficulty to blind us to that.

This has nothing to do with Bush or even Bernanke. They managed to make the crisis a little worse by uncontrolled government spending and sitting by while the trade deficit with China worsened, but basically they inherited this mess.

And it has been made several orders of magnitude worse by the large banking and money management outfits.

Also, it is not just an American problem—it extends to Europe, China, Japan, and the rest of the world.

Much of this goes back to the economic crimes of FDR and LBJ, but the worst of it has been caused by the childishness of the baby boomers, whose philosophy has been, “take out a mortgage on your house to buy toys. Tomorrow will never come.” Of course the lenders and educators and gurus have encouraged this way of thinking. And other boomers packaged the mess as derivatives—more than $75 trillion worth of them—so they could pay themselves big year-end bonuses.

A house of cards.


27 posted on 12/10/2007 8:34:44 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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What idiot thought that giving mortgages of several hundred thousands of dollars, to people who could in no way afford it, was a good idea?

It took me 40 days to get my first mortgage and you would have thought we were under investigation to be a FBI agent or something, what with credit checks they did in those days.

Now if your breathing you can get a $400,000 home on $9.50 an hour, and be an illegal alien to boot. This is a good idea for whom?

29 posted on 12/10/2007 9:05:48 AM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: shrinkermd
Concerted central bank action can liquefy any shortfall but why do they appear to be totally ignoring the commercial paper failure since August ?

Banks appear to be hoarding their reserves for some reason.

41 posted on 12/10/2007 6:41:17 PM PST by Vet_6780
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