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On the question: Do Mormons believe Jesus and Satan are brothers?

restornu posted a good response here:

Are we not all God's Children and if so did not Lucifer who sang among The Morning Stars who also the one whoFell from Heaven and now no longer part of Heavenly Father children!
Rom. 8: 16-17 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
It is amazine how the same critics have been shown scripture amd continue this misrepresentation of that quote!
Remeber before Lucifer/Satan fell from heaven he was not origianlly an outcast!
Revealtion 12:7-13
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

You can also read from the LDS Gospel Principles manual here: Jesus Christ, Our Chosen Leader and Savior

We believe our Heavenly Father is the Father of all Spirits on this earth, including Jesus Christ, Satan, and each of us. We believe Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the father. Or the only one who's biological parent is Heavenly Father. Some LDS authors have interpreted this to mean that Heavenly Father physically impregnated Mary, but this is not supported by scriptural references or church doctrine.

Personally, religious doctrine is not high on my list of issues to consider for POTUS.

A thoughtful reply, thank you.

It is possible to have doctrinal differences with many people. And to be clear, I am not one who makes blanket statements such as, “Mormons are not Christians.” (I figure that some are, some aren’t. Much the same as the average evangelical fellowship.)

But it is not so much the doctrinal difference that concerns me here, although I think it is a fair question of a candidate. I want to know everythng about the person I vote for, including their beliefs.

What bothers me is that, apparently the Mormon Church is willing to claim that the Jesus/Satan brotherhood is not a point of Mormon doctrine when it most clearly is (and which your response and restornu’s response argue). I find that denial to be extremely troubling. If I were Mormon I think I would find it even more troubling.

I do hope that Mitt has the sense not to deny the doctrine. I disagree with the doctrine, but I respect anyone’s right to a different belief than mine.

Excerpt:

De-sexualizing God and religion

. . . Thus, the first thing Judaism did was to de-sexualize God: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” by his will, not through any sexual behavior.

This was an utterly radical break with all other religions, and it alone changed human history.

The gods of virtually all civilizations engaged in sexual relations. In the Near East, the Babylonian god Ishtar seduced a man, Gilgamesh, the Babylonian hero. In Egyptian religion, the god Osiris had sexual relations with his sister, the goddess Isis, and she conceived the god Horus. In Canaan, El, the chief god . . .

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0003.html

We believe our Heavenly Father is the Father of all Spirits on this earth, including Jesus Christ, Satan, and each of us. We believe Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the father. Or the only one who's biological parent is Heavenly Father. Some LDS authors have interpreted this to mean that Heavenly Father physically impregnated Mary, but this is not supported by scriptural references or church doctrine.

I am confused.

Didn't Mormon President Brigham Young state: "Now remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p.51).

Didn't Mormon President Joseph Fielding Smith state: "They tell us the Book of Mormon states that Jesus was begotten of the Holy Ghost I challenge that statement. The Book of Mormon teaches no such thing! Neither does the Bible" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.19).

Didn't Mormon Apostle Bruce R. McConkie state: "These name-titles all signify that our Lord is the only Son of the Father in the flesh. Each of the words is to be understood literally. Only means only; Begotten means begotten; and Son means son. Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers" (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, pp.546-47).

Didn't Mormon Apostle Bruce R. McConkie also state: "And Christ was born into the world as the literal Son of this Holy Being; he was born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any son is born to a mortal father. There is nothing figurative about his paternity; he was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events, ... Christ is the Son of Man, meaning that his Father (the Eternal God!) is a Holy Man" (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p.742).

It seems the idea that "Heavenly Father physically impregnated Mary" is indeed clearly supported by both statements from church leaders and by church doctrine.