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JOE MCCARTHY INVENTED THE INTERNET ... Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter Dot Com ^ | 12 Dec 2007 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 12/12/2007 3:00:06 PM PST by Rummyfan

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To: Sudetenland
Well I do for certain.

I hope that there are many others like you but I fear there aren't.

81 posted on 12/13/2007 10:48:49 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Bigun
I think everyone needs to read Evan's book---fat chance, I know, but it would be a good start. Maybe they could manage Ann's book Treason. It's pretty good and entertaining.

You know it strikes me that Truman/Acheson/Marshall policies did to Chiang Kai Chek what the Democrat policies during the 70's did to the South Vietnamese Army, starve them of supplies and ammunition. What makes Americans think that Iraq and Afghanistan would wind up any different?

They're traitors, top to bottom.
82 posted on 12/13/2007 11:22:57 AM PST by Sudetenland (Liberals love "McCarthyism," they just believe he was targeting the wrong side.)
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To: Sudetenland

And what happened to those left on the beach at the Bay of Pigs as well as what would have happened in Nicaragua had it not been for the Ollie North crowd.


83 posted on 12/13/2007 11:29:23 AM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Rummyfan

http://blog.barofintegrity.us/
Al Gore, MoveOn.org, and the Communist Party


84 posted on 12/13/2007 11:31:59 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: antisocial

Thank you for the link.... I will when I have opportunity do some checking.


85 posted on 12/13/2007 12:18:18 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Bigun
No doubt there was Soviet influence. Absolutely, but..

My thoughts are: 1) there was enough opposition to the Nationalist Government among our "intellectuals" and "progressives" (sympathizers maybe but not card-carrying Communists, com-symps) for Mao's "agrarian reform," that even without Soviet influence in government and elsewhere Mao would have had Washington's support and 2) Batista's government was not popular here (most of us probably never heard of him) and Castro was wildly popular in the media and among the usual "intellectuals" suspects ("wildly" maybe is a bit too much but the networks did compete with one another).

(There was the usual "our fault" claims, we made Mao and Castro turn to the Soviets.)

The key IMO is the silenced majority; to wit, no Internet and nothing like modern talk radio. Though even with both, the miracle of TV was fascinating and many of the journalists there had built their reputations in the War; maybe even with both the Internet and modern talk radio we would have lost the battle for public opinion.

I remember writing to the networks with complaints about bias only to receive a reply stating "We're professionals and you're not."

As the Contra-Sandinista war raged I realized that I did not know who were the good guys and who were the commies. I had by that time given up on network (and other) news. But I knew that it would take only a few seconds to get an answer to my question, I'll watch how the TV networks cover the two sides. Sure enough Sandinistas were hailed as heroes and the Contras were war criminals, the Sandinistas were the Communists.

It doesn't take American card-carrying members of our enemy's forces. We have plenty of "Americans" like the famous Professor Nicholas "I hope for a million Mogadishus" De Genova and his ideal world where "the U.S. would have no place." I am sure that the professor is not a jihadist.

The minnows grew up to be the Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party) leaders and stalwarts. The old crew fled from the Party.

We now have the tools to fight the traitors with everything including blood; our America, their blood.

My preference however is to leave the actual combat up to the professionals. "Get on the damn horse, already!"

86 posted on 12/13/2007 2:00:22 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Rummyfan
"Al Gore is a vaguely gay, morbidly obese former Clinton administration official who raised campaign cash from Buddhist monks and claimed he invented the Internet."

BWHAHAHAAHahahahaha..... I just love her lingo.....

87 posted on 12/13/2007 2:01:46 PM PST by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
My thoughts are: 1) there was enough opposition to the Nationalist Government among our "intellectuals" and "progressives" (sympathizers maybe but not card-carrying Communists, com-symps) for Mao's "agrarian reform," that even without Soviet influence in government and elsewhere Mao would have had Washington's support and 2) Batista's government was not popular here (most of us probably never heard of him) and Castro was wildly popular in the media and among the usual "intellectuals" suspects ("wildly" maybe is a bit too much but the networks did compete with one another).

I would add that the effort of your "Com-symps" would not have, in my opinion, amounted to so much as they turned out to without the aid of out and out communists/soviet agents working within our own government to help us formulate our foreign policy. (It isn't as if there were not at the time true patriots trying to warn us off but who were shouted down by those more powerful forces in government.) This is particularly true with regard to events leading up to Batista's overthrow in Cuba.

I otherwise agree and PRAY that will use the tools now available to us have to rid ourselves, once and for all, of this enemy within.

88 posted on 12/13/2007 2:41:23 PM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: StevieJ
Yawn. Aren't her fifteen minutes up yet??
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Coulter has the brain power to run circles around most of the left without even thinking
Post 15

I’m trying to figure out how these comments can come from the same person. Are you searching for your minutes of fame?

89 posted on 12/13/2007 4:18:01 PM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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To: mbraynard

“Further, wouldn’t a Rockafeller Republican favor giving drivers licenses to illegals rather than vetoing them?”

I think rockafeller republicans would be in favor of anything that helps big business improve their bottom line. ie amnesty for illegals (cheap labor for big business)


90 posted on 12/13/2007 4:19:09 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Fiji Hill
“I found Joseph McCarthy by Arthur Herman (The Free Press, 2000) to be a balanced and well-researched account of the life of the Badger State solon.”

I saw Herman interviewed (Booknotes?) around the time the book came out. He came across very well. He was addressing a VERY controversial topic. It paved the way for future books. Now we've had Ann’s book and now this book. Buckley wrote a fictional account of a character who was like McCarthy. My view is that McCarthy was one of 100 senators. Which one was without flaws? There was no doubting his patriotism and anticommunism. I wish the same could be said of all 100 senators then, or now.

91 posted on 12/13/2007 4:24:22 PM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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To: mbraynard
“NR ... more than any other journal, the benchmark of American Conservatism.”

More so that Human Events? HE claims they were founded in 1944. Do you happen to know when NR was founded? In any case, there is room for many conservative publications as far as I’m concerned.

92 posted on 12/13/2007 4:39:50 PM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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To: Rummyfan

Hubba hubba!


93 posted on 12/13/2007 4:51:34 PM PST by stimpy17 (Home of the free because of the Brave.)
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To: Sudetenland
You know it strikes me that Truman/Acheson/Marshall policies did to Chiang Kai Chek what the Democrat policies during the 70's did to the South Vietnamese Army, starve them of supplies and ammunition. What makes Americans think that Iraq and Afghanistan would wind up any different?

Bingo. “History may not repeat, but it sure does rhyme.”

Sometimes, I look at current reporting and transpose it to an earlier time. Imagine the pressure on Bush, Ashcroft, Libby, Cheney, and others, if there were no Internet and talk radio to set the record straight.
94 posted on 12/13/2007 5:11:38 PM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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To: ChessExpert

You are right, HE should get a hat tip. I don’t know that they had nearly the circulation or cultural impact of NR, and they were anti-communist American thought at the time like a few other publications as the time. I don’t think they had the same broad synthesis of modern conservatism as NR did (founded in 55).


95 posted on 12/14/2007 7:56:49 AM PST by mbraynard (Tagline changed due to admin request)
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To: Cicero

Have you read the Radosh review? It wasn’t an “attack” on Evans, much less slanderous. It’s a mixed review, agreeing with and praising some aspects of Evans’ book but taking issue with him on a few key points.

Nor does one have to be a leftist to have qualms about McCarthy. Whittaker Chambers didn’t care for him either.


96 posted on 12/17/2007 2:49:37 PM PST by joylyn
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To: joylyn

Well, I watched the Army-McCarthy hearings as a college student, and I agree that McCarthy was not an attractive guy. He had worse five o’clock shadow than Nixon, and he really looked sinister.

But, on the whole, he was absolutely right. There were Communists in high places, and a lot of people didn’t want to know about it.

Coincidentally, my faculty adviser at Harvard when I first went there, Wendell Furey, was one of McCarthy’s targets, which kind of got me PO’d, because he was too busy dodging investigations to teach me nuclear physics or tell me which courses to take.

At the time I took the media portrait of him as the gospel truth. Over the years, I have come to realize there was a lot more going on than we were being told about.


97 posted on 12/17/2007 3:21:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I basically agree with Coulter’s point that the refusal to admit the extent of Communist penetration of the FDR administration is far more serious than anything McCarthy ever said or did. The reasons for this ongoing scandal are complicated and start with the longterm split in American history between urban sophisticates and the men and women of the frontier. During the thirties, Communists portrayed heartland politicians as ignorant rubes, proto-fascists, and the tools of decadent capitalism, only marginally better than HItler. Liberals in the media and politics often shared this anti-American, pro-utopian socialist bias. They also tended to identify with people like Alger Hiss (he was one of them).

I’m familiar with the research that went into the Radosh/Klehr book on the Amerasia case. I’d say that John Service was pretty clearly not a spy, or even a Communist. But he was heavily targeted by Communist agents during his time in China. They preyed on his naivete and personal ambiiton and turned him into a first-class dupe.

Coulter is entitled to disagree with the Radosh review and maybe she doesn’t like him personally, but I know him well enough to be sure of two things: 1. he wouldn’t review a book he hadn’t read. 2. he isn’t trying to “curry favor with liberals.” That ship sailed for him a long time ago.


98 posted on 12/18/2007 10:35:15 AM PST by joylyn
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To: joylyn

Yes, there were also plenty of fellow travellers and useful idiots. Not everyone had a party card.

All this reminds of of another odd experience I had a couple of years before the McCarthy hearings. A friend of mine and I, both interested in science, took a train into New York to see the exhibit at the New York Museum of Science and Industry.

When we got there it turned out that, although there were a few neat things like a Van de Graaf generator that made your hair stand on end with static electricity, the whole hall was filled with little “scientific” pamphlets that proved to be Communist propaganda leaflets of all kinds.

Since they were giving them out for free, my friend and I stocked up on them and brought them home with us. They included one little pamphlet containing Communist Manifesto, and a lot of other neat things. I took them home and read them, probably making me the only kid in my school to have read the entire Communist Manifesto, which is actually fairly short. Shortly afterward, McCarthy appeared on the scene, I ditched my pamphlets lest I be misunderstood and hauled before the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities, and the Museum of Science and Industry was shut down, permanently.

The pamphlets had no political effect on me; it’s just that I have always had a large curiosity bump, and like to study for myself.


99 posted on 12/18/2007 12:36:11 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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