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To: tessalu
We ALL know (or SHOULD know) that Jesus was the ONLY begotten SON of God. But below (with reference) is what the Mormon Church ITSELF has had to say on the matter. Gov. Huckabee has only asked if it was true. It is being taken out of context. The Mormon Church needs to explain itself. Not the other way around. The only mistake Huckabee did was in apologizing!

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Please note what Mormon prophets and church officials have had to say about the matter. From their writings it is clear that they believed and taught that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers.

Bruce R. McConkie, in his work The Mortal Messiah, Vol.1, Pg.407-408 under the heading “ Lucifer and the Law of Temptation” has the following to say;

“Hence, there is — and must be — a devil, and he is the father of lies and of wickedness. He and the fallen angels who followed him are spirit children of the Father. As Christ is the Firstborn of the Father in the spirit, so Lucifer is a son of the morning, one of those born in the morning of preexistence. He is a spirit man, a personage, an entity, comparable in form and appearance to any of the spirit children of the Eternal Father. He was the source of opposition among the spirit hosts before the world was made; he rebelled in preexistence against the Father and the Son, and he sought even then to destroy the agency of man. He and his followers were cast down to earth, and they are forever denied mortal bodies. And he, here on earth, along with all who follow him — both his spirit followers and the mortals who hearken to his enticements — is continuing the war that commenced in heaven.”

Joseph Fielding Smith Jr.,the LDS prophet, wrote in his work, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.2, Pg.218 -Pg.219
“We learn from the scriptures that Lucifer — once a son of the morning, who exercised authority in the presence of God before the foundations of this earth were laid — rebelled against the plan of salvation and against Jesus Christ who was chosen to be the Savior of the world and who is spoken of as the ‘Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.’” In the Discourses of Brigham Young, on Pg.53-54 he lets it be known that Lucifer is the second son, the one known as “Son of the Morning.”

“Who will redeem the earth, who will go forth and make the sacrifice for the earth and all things it contains?” The Eldest Son said: “Here am I”; and then he added, “Send me.” But the second one, which was “Lucifer, Son of the Morning,” said, “Lord, here am I, send me, I will redeem every son and daughter of Adam and Eve that lives on the earth, or that ever goes on the earth.”

12 posted on 12/13/2007 12:40:09 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (We stand firm with the President and the troops, We never waver. We don't support terrorists!)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
GOP be on notice. The SAME Conservatives who are NOT donating to the RNC (you can see that this is a large number because the RNC has less money that Alan Keyes) will be the same Conservatives that will not vote for rootieromneyhuckaliar... be warned... if you vote for a liberal in the primaries, you will elect a she-devil dim liberal in the general... or worse! MILLIONS of us will write in a candidate and refuse to ever vote for another liberal in Conservative garbs.

LLS

61 posted on 12/13/2007 4:40:47 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
We ALL know (or SHOULD know) that Jesus was the ONLY begotten SON of God. But below (with reference) is what the Mormon Church ITSELF has had to say on the matter. Gov. Huckabee has only asked if it was true. It is being taken out of context. The Mormon Church needs to explain itself. Not the other way around. The only mistake Huckabee did was in apologizing! Please note what Mormon prophets and church officials have had to say about the matter. From their writings it is clear that they believed and taught that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers.

Exactly! And this is why Romney's 'great' speech about his religion proved him to be a hypocrite on yet another topic. His references to Jesus in his speech were not in keeping with the teachings of the Mormon religion.

65 posted on 12/13/2007 5:03:18 AM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Please note what Mormon prophets and church officials have had to say about the matter. From their writings it is clear that they believed and taught that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers.

I think the problem starts with what that 'brotherhood' means to LDS and non-LDS audiences. From the LDS perspective, we are all spiritually born of Heavenly Father, including Christ and his followers (everyone born on earth), and Satan and his followers [else who created them?]. As such, we are all spirit siblings but Christ is the only begotten of the Father [born as a biological child of Heavenly Father with a physical body]. Some anti-LDS authors want to imply that our belief that Satan's spiritual father is the same as Christ's is in conflict with the statement that Christ is the only begotten. Here is the official press release on this issue from the LDS.org Newsroom:

SALT LAKE CITY 12 December 2007 Like other Christians, we believe Jesus is the divine Son of God. Satan is a fallen angel.

As the Apostle Paul wrote, God is the Father of all. That means that all beings were created by God and are His spirit children. Christ, however, was the only begotten in the flesh, and we worship Him as the Son of God and the Savior of mankind.

Certainly some of this doctrine will seem strange to Trinitarian Christians. With so many religions with different doctrines, it's apparent some (all?) of us are at least a little off track. Christians believe the Jews missed a switch and are caught in a loop waiting for the coming of the Messiah, whom we believe already came. Catholics believe they've always been on track. Protestants believe Catholics drifted away and various Protestant Reformers set the church back on the right track. Mormons believe all of these are still on the wrong track and Heavenly Father revealed to Joseph Smith where the right track is. We are all worshiping our understanding of the same God. In the end, God will judge if we lived our lives according to the knowledge we were given.

Regarding how religion should imfluence selecting a candidate for President, see Post 72.

78 posted on 12/13/2007 8:16:03 AM PST by esarlls3
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