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Lawsuit targets history teacher's comments
LA Times ^ | 12/13/07 | David Haldane

Posted on 12/13/2007 8:18:01 AM PST by ZGuy

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21 posted on 12/13/2007 8:31:19 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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To: ZGuy

California’s democrat led legislators will be passing a law next year protecting the “free speech” of teachers in a classroom.


22 posted on 12/13/2007 8:32:26 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: ZGuy

So....

Which side of this dispute do you think the ACLU will support?

Just kidding... I’m pretty sure I already know. ;^)


23 posted on 12/13/2007 8:33:33 AM PST by WayneS (Follow the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th.)
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To: ZGuy

Humiliating Christians is on the agenda of the ACLU, the atheists, muslims, and the homosexuals. The sickos and whackos are setting the standard.


24 posted on 12/13/2007 8:34:54 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: Right Cal Gal
Works for me. It’s time for Christians to fight back!

These great people are leading the fight!! Please donate what you can here!

25 posted on 12/13/2007 8:34:59 AM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: Slapshot68
So it’s separation of church and state...unless you want to trash the church, then it’s okay. Got it.

You bet. The high church of humanism is obviously exempt from the imaginary Constitutional separation of church and state. Insane.

26 posted on 12/13/2007 8:36:32 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: massgopguy

“These people are Christophobic.”

It is more a hatred than a phobia, IMHO.


27 posted on 12/13/2007 8:36:56 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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28 posted on 12/13/2007 8:37:43 AM PST by digger48
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To: Right Cal Gal
Works for me. It’s time for Christians to fight back!

When it gets bad enough to have to fight back, something unusual (and undesireable) is definitely going on.
There is at least one "religion" that undoubtedly deserves all the derision and contempt it gets but, even in that case, it is not a teacher's right nor his expected role to use his position in class to do so.

As for teaching morality in class, that is a minefield. I wouldn't trust anyone from the pervert persuasion to unravel ethics or morals --or religion-- for my children.

29 posted on 12/13/2007 8:37:50 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: ZGuy
"students...feel ostracized and treated as second-class citizens"

That's because in academia you are ostracized, tested (no kidding - gay test and black test), and you are treated like a second class citizen. If you're Catholic or Christian you must be pro-life so the pro-choice Nazis come after you. You also must be stupid even if your GPA is a 3.0 or above (3.81 here but stupid).

You also must be a conservative... ouch won't even go into what these liberals Nazis do to conservatives including stealing, plagiarizing your work and turning it in as their own... and your professor looks the other way because you're a conservative.

And either do the whole project yourself or become part of a team of lazy liberals. Most don't do their work. You'll be doing the whole project anyway.

30 posted on 12/13/2007 8:39:48 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
“Why didn’t the dad just go call the teacher out and teach him about being a Muslim or an atheist. Then when the teacher got out of the hospital he might just have more respect for Christians.”

Because that’s what a fundy muslim or atheist would do.

Well, we have to admit that even Fundies and aetheists aren't ALWAYS wrong.

31 posted on 12/13/2007 8:41:27 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Tolerating intolerance is not a "value," it's self-destructive stupidity.)
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To: Publius6961

Back in the dark ages, my 9th grade biology teacher had to teach reproduction. He was very clear before he ever started. Said I can tell you the anatomy and the physiology, what parts are and how they work. You need to talk to your parents about everything else. He drew the line very clearly and diverted questions (even from the “tough kids”) that moved into morality.

I still respect him for that. After all it was a public school in the 70’s.


32 posted on 12/13/2007 8:41:47 AM PST by trimom
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To: ZGuy
"so I sent him to school with a tape recorder." During the next two months he taped Corbett's lectures with the recorder in plain sight on his backpack.

And I suppose he'd tell us Christians are stupid too.

33 posted on 12/13/2007 8:43:50 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (If Rudy's an influential conservative, then I'm an award winning concert pianist.)
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To: Always Right
But there will be plenty of schools lining up to hire they guy.

Course there will, because his preaching is within the guidelines of the official state church.

34 posted on 12/13/2007 8:45:08 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: edcoil
I once read it took 12 years and 645,000 to get rid of a union teacher molesting a student because the teachers union will do everything possible to protect the teacher and union.

This will be a long fight and result in money for the lawyers.

That's why I so highly recommend the OKIEDOC's soloution in post # 5.

35 posted on 12/13/2007 8:49:33 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (Tolerating intolerance is not a "value," it's self-destructive stupidity.)
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To: ZGuy
[Corbett] said that religion is not "connected with morality";

Any living thing, from a mouse on up to a human society, can withstand some insult and injury. This kind of thinking is injurious to our society. It often is not clear how much is fatal until after the line is crossed. We are not at the fatal point yet, but it could be that it can be seen from here.

36 posted on 12/13/2007 8:50:31 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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To: logic
Great link!

I notice that Michael Newdow, the nutcase from the Sacramento Calif area is still going at it.

In the lawsuit, the Plaintiffs assert that since the school district has their teachers lead the public school students in reciting the Pledge of Allegiance during school hours—including “the purely religious claim that we are one nation under God”—the Plaintiffs feel that this is a violation of the Constitution.

The assault on language is almost as painful as the assault on religion.
"Purely religious"?

As I read that, I see the correct secular assertion that we are one nation; whether everyone in it believes in God --- or not.
If the moron wants to challenge that, good luck to him.

37 posted on 12/13/2007 8:50:41 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: ZGuy

Way back in the early ‘70s I had a wannabee with-it history teacher sophomore year of high school.

Part of the class was a study of religions. Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam were all presented as glorious examples of spirituality.

Then came the discussion of Christianity. Suddenly this single religion was solely responsible for most of the evil in the world.

The neat thing was that the doofus had a policy of open discussion in class. (Being cool with the kids, ya know.) He also knew almost nothing about the religion he was trying to trash.

For three straight days I (and to a lesser extent another girl) disassembled him in class. Fourth day the class format changed to a lecture format for the rest of the semester.

For my final grade he gave me a D-. I challenged this and the three-person review board raised it to an A. Turned out I knew his subject a great deal better than he did.

He moved to another school the next year.


38 posted on 12/13/2007 8:50:45 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: trimom
He was very clear before he ever started. Said I can tell you the anatomy and the physiology, what parts are and how they work. You need to talk to your parents about everything else. He drew the line very clearly and diverted questions (even from the “tough kids”) that moved into morality.

A wise teacher whom I can totally respect.
I have yet to see a coherent argument against this crucial role of parents; other than the circularly reasoned (and self-serving) argument that "many" parents fail to address the topic.

If that view of parents' role in society makes any sense, might as well have the nanny state start feeding our kids, clothing them, sheltering them and providing needed health care... ... wait.

...never mind...

39 posted on 12/13/2007 9:00:24 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961

You should have heard him on evolution. He laid out a scenario where he ran Genesis along side the fossil record and said our problem may be that we define the days of creation by OUR definition of a day and we neglect that God may have had a different definition of time.

He was without a doubt the best teacher I have ever had.


40 posted on 12/13/2007 9:05:50 AM PST by trimom
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