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Walled Nativity Scene Borders On Anti-Semitism, Jewish Leaders Say
Crosswalk ^ | Julie Stahl

Posted on 12/14/2007 7:25:59 AM PST by Between the Lines

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To: Between the Lines

First things first. My sin and yours put Jesus on the cross. He was the sacrificial Lamb of God (Isaiah 53) who takes away our sin if we receive Him (John 3). (Technically, the Roman soldiers did our dirty work if you want to get petty.)
Ya’shua came for the Jews first (book of Matthew). Enough with the “Jews killed Jesus” already, it doesn’t let anyone off the hook! We all placed the nails in His hands and feet. The Nativity is open to everyone if they choose and their are no “walls” except someone’s own free will.
The Lord of the New Testament is the same as the Lord of the Old Testament. He is never changing.

Maybe the folks who came up with this outta read the book of Nehemiah.

P.S. If they don’t have a love for the Jews and the Jewish nation, then they aren’t “Christians” (Matthew 25:31-46, Matt. 13:24-30).


21 posted on 12/14/2007 8:24:34 AM PST by 444Flyer (NEVER take a "mark" to "buy or sell"!Eph 5:11-14John 3:1-36, Eph 6, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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To: 444Flyer

Bears repeating. If they don’t have a love for the Jews and the Jewish nation, then they aren’t “Christians” (Matthew 25:31-46). You will know them by their fruit...(Matthew 7:17-20)


22 posted on 12/14/2007 8:34:46 AM PST by 444Flyer (NEVER take a "mark" to "buy or sell"!Eph 5:11-14John 3:1-36, Eph 6, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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To: Deathmonger
I would never have thought that a Nativity scene protesting the Bethlehem security wall would indict the Palestinians, Christians, Christmas, and the British in general as “anti-Semitic”. Because it isn’t.

Why is it necessary to create a Nativity scene "protesting the security barrier"? What does that have to do with Christmas or the Nativity?

23 posted on 12/14/2007 8:42:15 AM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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I don't know that I'd call it antisemitic. A Creche is clearly a religious symbol, to these Christians taking an anti-Israel stance is a matter of faith. Not much you can do about that.

24 posted on 12/14/2007 8:46:25 AM PST by SJackson (we're gonna change the rules and have voting only on the Internet, then we're gonna win!, Ron Paul)
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To: Alouette

Do you think anyone would be offended if a politically correct Nativity Scene was produced, with palestinians in apartment buildings behind the manger shooting the wise men as they arrived? In 2007, that wall would be the only reason they’d still be alive.


25 posted on 12/14/2007 8:50:58 AM PST by SJackson (we're gonna change the rules and have voting only on the Internet, then we're gonna win!, Ron Paul)
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To: Alouette
Why is it necessary to create a Nativity scene "protesting the security barrier"? What does that have to do with Christmas or the Nativity?

Obviously the artist blames the barrier for shutting down Bethlehem tourism and Christian pilgrimmages. The barrier encloses about 60-70% of the city IIRC including its main access roads. The significance of Bethlehem to the Christmas holiday and the Nativity goes without saying.
27 posted on 12/14/2007 9:07:04 AM PST by Deathmonger
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To: Deathmonger
Obviously the artist blames the barrier for shutting down Bethlehem tourism and Christian pilgrimmages.

I don't suppose it has occured to him to blame Palestinian terrorists?

28 posted on 12/14/2007 9:08:31 AM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Hildy
Palestinian Christians think Israel is more of an enemy than Islam?

Notice that is no quote, simply authors opinion at best, an intentional lie the author chose to portray as fact at worst...

29 posted on 12/14/2007 9:13:12 AM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: 444Flyer
First things first. My sin and yours put Jesus on the cross. He was the sacrificial Lamb of God (Isaiah 53) who takes away our sin if we receive Him (John 3). (Technically, the Roman soldiers did our dirty work if you want to get petty.)
Ya’shua came for the Jews first (book of Matthew). Enough with the “Jews killed Jesus” already, it doesn’t let anyone off the hook! We all placed the nails in His hands and feet. The Nativity is open to everyone if they choose and their are no “walls” except someone’s own free will.
The Lord of the New Testament is the same as the Lord of the Old Testament. He is never changing.
Maybe the folks who came up with this outta read the book of Nehemiah.

AMEN!!

P.S. If they don’t have a love for the Jews and the Jewish nation, then they aren’t “Christians” (Matthew 25:31-46, Matt. 13:24-30).

This, OTOH, I must refute, one may well be a saved Christian, but not have a full understanding of any of a million different things... It just means they are not perfect Christians... of course I've never met anyone who was perfect, other than my Lord!

30 posted on 12/14/2007 9:25:05 AM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: Alouette

Terrorists aren’t preventing tourists from going to Bethlehem, the barrier is. Yes, Israel built the barrier to keep terrorists out and grab land to create a more defensible border than the Green Line provided. Innocent bystanders on both sides continue to suffer.

Why is a piece of protest art about the barrier’s economic effect on Bethlehem generating such hysterical reactions?


32 posted on 12/14/2007 9:31:01 AM PST by Deathmonger
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To: 444Flyer
"Enough with the “Jews killed Jesus” already, it doesn’t let anyone off the hook! We all placed the nails in His hands and feet. The Nativity is open to everyone if they choose and their are no “walls” except someone’s own free will. The Lord of the New Testament is the same as the Lord of the Old Testament. He is never changing. Maybe the folks who came up with this outta read the book of Nehemiah. P.S. If they don’t have a love for the Jews and the Jewish nation, then they aren’t “Christians” (Matthew 25:31-46, Matt. 13:24-30)."

Amen - you nailed it with a big ole hammer!
33 posted on 12/14/2007 9:38:26 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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To: F15Eagle; Alouette
"Any Christian who truly understands what the Nativity is and the characters invovled would not be involved in nor support violence against Israel."

Amen and right on, F15Eagle! Christianity has its roots in Judaism and Israel. A lot of folks over the year have tried to deny, minimize, or ignore those facts, but if it wasn't for the Jewish people and the nation of Israel, there would be no Christianity as we know it. For a Christian to hate the Jewish people and Israel is to hate their spiritual ancestors.
34 posted on 12/14/2007 9:42:37 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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To: Deathmonger
Terrorists aren’t preventing tourists from going to Bethlehem, the barrier is.

No, terrorism is the cause.

35 posted on 12/14/2007 10:04:13 AM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Hildy

Stockholm Syndrome and 1400 years of dhimmitude..


37 posted on 12/14/2007 10:35:01 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Between the Lines

“The irony is that Mary and Joseph would have been a Jewish couple, and if they were travelling through the West Bank today, [their lives would have been at risk] from the same terrorists that have targeted so many Israelis,” Benjamin told Cybercast News Service. “

If it was known what would result from their trip, they would have been targeted for Assasination.


38 posted on 12/14/2007 10:36:49 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: Hildy

The Christians don’t like the wall cutting through their neighborhoods either.


39 posted on 12/14/2007 10:37:31 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: wideawake

I’ve been pretty underwhelmed by the behavior of Christian Arabs — until very recently, they have pretty consistently sided with the Arab muslims against Israel and the West in general.


40 posted on 12/14/2007 10:50:58 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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