'Buy American' No Longer Black And White In Auto Industry

Newhouse News ^ | 12/14/2007 | Peter Krouse and Robert Schoenberger

[texastoo]

Only Democrats and RINOs would go for closed door, unAmerican tribuuuuuuuuuunals. Sorry, you can’t get away from being unAmerican when you back free trade, the WTO and tribunals.

[1rudeboy]

Again, let me remind you what brought you and I to this thread . . . someone lamenting that foreign auto makers located in the U.S. don’t use American parts. Apart from being false, is the above opinion more or less likely to be held by a Democrat?

[napscoordinator]

After 38 cars in 35 years, I will never buy another Ford, Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler, GM, Subaru or Toyota product.

I agree with your assessment except for the Toyota. I love and only buy Toyota or Honda. They have never given me a problem. Ford on the other hand was a painful experience.

[texastoo]

Apart from being false, is the above opinion more or less likely to be held by a Democrat?

I don't know as I am not a Democrat. You are the one who brought up the subject of Democrats. I guess you know. LOL!

[1rudeboy]

Interesting standard you have there . . . if you cannot comment on whether something is Democrat-like because you are not a Democrat, why do you inflict your opinions about economics on the rest of us?

[mamelukesabre]

Read the artical again. It’s written from the point of view of the UAW. The UAW exists in both canada and mexico. So the UAW considers canada and mexico the same as america.

[Proud2BeRight]

Same old riceburner spin perpetuated by the rice worshippers. I don’t care if a few subservient Americans bowing to Japan assembled the ricerburner or not. An ugly boring over-rated riceburner is an ugly boring over-rated riceburner.

[am452]

All farm tractor are made overseas,

I just bout a New Holland. My dealer siad they were made in Georgia. After it was delivered I noticed in the owners manual it was made in Japan. I was crushed. The only thing New Holland did at the factory in Georgia was add the wheels/tires, gas tank, seats, roll bar etc

[Fishrrman]

And for that matter - not to hijack this thread or anything - but when did Mexico annex the US?

Look around you. It's happening now.

- John

[org.whodat]

I just bout a New Holland. My dealer said they were made in Georgia. After it was delivered I noticed in the owners manual it was made in Japan. I was crushed. The only thing New Holland did at the factory in Georgia was add the wheels/tires, gas tank, seats, roll bar etc

Some are made in India, some made in Poland, some made in Korea. Some of the new john deers are made in china.

[danmar]

Yeah, the new 2.5L 4-cylinder has a very bizarre EGR system in it that, I think, is designed to not cut down on power like most EGR systems do, but it's turned out to be a basketcase

EGR(Exhaust Gas Recirculation) is designed to reduce the NOX emissions, by cooling down the combustion chambers, not to cut down on power.
The EGR kicks in at about 1500 RPM controlled by engine vacuum and reroutes a small amount of exhaust gases back into the cylinder chambers thus cooling down the combustion chambers, thus reducing the NOX(nitrous oxide).

Nissan's issue most likely was that the cars failed smog test due to high amount of NOX, created in part by partially plugged up EGR pass ways.

[mamelukesabre]

You really honestly believe your pickup is as american as it gets?

[danmar]

Yep, that’s when Chevy screwed up royally and made it look like a overgrown GEO. What an embarrassment to the Camaro heritage!(design wise I might add)

[JamesP81]

EGR(Exhaust Gas Recirculation) is designed to reduce the NOX emissions, by cooling down the combustion chambers, not to cut down on power.

I know it's not designed to cut down on power, but when you recirculate exhaust gas into the cylinders like that it certainly has that effect. Having read about the design of that engine, I suspect they were trying to find a way to reduce NOX emissions without the normal cut in power and efficiency that goes with that.

[Caipirabob]

"Buying a car made by Ford, GM or Chrysler, on balance, is putting more money into the American economy than buying a Toyota or Honda," Rubenstein said.

Buying crap ensures there will be more crap. I still remember the driver side door falling off my Explorer. I'll take my Lexus, thank you.