Posted on 12/15/2007 8:14:17 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
Don't have time now, but look ut the 1995 Jerusalem Embassy Act. The act requires a reduction in funding of all American Embassies, 50% I think, it the Embassy isn't moved to Jerusalem. National security interests are the only basis under which the President can exercise his right to a six month waiver.
The borders are the 1949 truce lines.
Israel has annexed the Golan and some areas around Jerusalem I believe. Obviously expanding the borders into the West Bank is a subject of negotiation, as was Gaza and the Sinai. The Embassy site is within the 1949 lines, it shouldn't be an issue. Particularly since GWB campaigned on the issue, and included in in the 2000 and 2004 platforms. It's not supporters of Israel going back 50 years to support Israel's borders, rather others including GWB in this instance going back 60 years, pre-1948, to undemine them.
I don't think Israel handled Lebanon particularly well, but I don't think they betrayed the United States.
You've completely proved my point. Israel cannot tell you what it's borders are. As long as Israel believes their borders are open to negotiation, the pali problem will persist.
NOTHING AMERICA IS DOING IS MAKING THEM TAKE THIS APPROACH. EVERY PM HAS TAKEN THIS APPROACH FOR THE PAST 40 YEARS. THIS IS ISRAEL'S FOREIGN POLICY. America is along for the ride.
Lebanon was a total and complete betrayal. Isreal went in, started taking some casualties and then came crying to America and the UN to dig them out of yet ANOTHER WAR WHICH THEY REFUSE TO FINISH.
You're welcome to provide me with instances that Israel was willing to cede territory withing the 1949 lines, I doubt there are any.
Personally I see no American interests at stake in last years Lebanon war. You're welcome to enumerate them, as well as provide some evidence to back up your apparent claim that Israel was acting as an American proxy to accomplish something, I know not what.
Your contension that Israel, facing defeat, crawled to America and the UN to dig them out of what would have been another defeat at the hands of the victorious Arabs, what can I say, I just don't see it.
Utter b.s.
If Israel is so clear about their borders, what are they? You know you are wrong, but for some reason you cannot bring yourself to admit it.
Personally I see no American interests at stake in last years Lebanon war.
If this is so, then America has no stake in what happens in Iran either. Do you deny that Lebenon was acting as Iran's proxy when they started shelling Israel?
No, you’re kidding. The service entrance. Must call again. Details, please.
You are good about calling and contacting officials. At least you don’t have to worry about Arkancide when you criticize the White House now.
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Bump
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Essentially the Arabs refused contact with Jews at Annapolis, dhimmis after all. State had the Israeli delegation enter through what is alternately called a side or service entrance. As though that matters. The Saudis and Syrians among others made a point of not conversing with, shaking hands of, or listening to the translations of Jews.
Not in Egypt or Jordan, but in Annapolis Maryland.
At the Naval Academy
Maybe one day when Arabs come to America, they'll accept our moral standards.
Rice: I know what it's like to be Palestinian
Column One: Apartheid, not peace
'I know what it's like as a Palestinian'
Condi hangs a 'No Jews Allowed' sign
Islamization on the Chesapeake--Condi Rice's ridiculous behavior at Annapolis.
OK, you're a diplomat, I'm a dumbass.
As you note from my prior post, they're the 1949 truce lines, the Golan though not recognized.
To cover your other concerns the West Bank to be negotiated.
You call youself Diplomat, I explained it in English, and you didn't understand.
Odd, my guess, you didn't want to.
If this is so, then America has no stake in what happens in Iran either. Do you deny that Lebenon was acting as Iran's proxy when they started shelling Israel?
Of course not. Hizbollah acts as Iran's proxy shelling Israel. I don't see how that's a current issue for America, though Hizbollah has some payback coming for Beirut.
Syria acting as Iran's proxy killing Americans in Iraq, now that's an American interest.
So what's your point, that Israel failed in their role as America's proxy in Lebanon.
Maybe State should have whined a bit less, things might have turned out differently. Might not.
IMO, if destroying Hizbollah in Lebanon is a priority for America, then we should go in and do it, not leave it to the Israelis.
And yes, we both know that the concept of Israel acting on American orders in Lebanon is conspiratical nonsense.
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