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‘Blowback’ on the CIA
The Toledo Blade ^ | 12-15-2007 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 12/16/2007 9:34:16 AM PST by AliVeritas

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To: AliVeritas

Hey C.I.A., just to let you guys know, The soviets lost.
Bout time ya know.


21 posted on 12/16/2007 11:01:38 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: fella

22 posted on 12/16/2007 11:26:03 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: MizSterious

Thanks...got to read this...


23 posted on 12/16/2007 11:47:03 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: AliVeritas

bttt


24 posted on 12/16/2007 11:52:37 AM PST by RebelTex (MOLON LABE!)
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To: happyathome
"Its not clear - to me - whether the Administration is guided by “turn the other cheek” principles or is just plain stupid"

I think thats something a lot of people have been trying to figure out. Add to those the instant pardon of friend Scooter Libby as opposed to the malicious prosecution and refusal to pardon Ramos and Compean and it starts to look like a lot more like corruption than simple ineptitude.

25 posted on 12/16/2007 12:02:20 PM PST by Carbonado
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To: bigfootbob
No...you fire all the embeds at State and CIA...then future hires are given 8 year term limits. That will be put government back in the hands of those 'we the people' elected.

If 8 year term limit is good for a president then all house and senate need 8 year term limits [house members continue to run for office every 2 years and senators run for office 4 years]. This will prevent senators and congresscritters from building kingdoms unto themselves and will go out of office with nominal net worth. Now these bozos come to office with small net worth leave very wealthy bozos.

26 posted on 12/16/2007 12:20:21 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

I suspect that part of the problem is that many or most of the young people who come into the CIA and the State Department have traditionally done so from the Ivy colleges.

When I was at Harvard, I knew several people planning to go into those bureaucracies. In fact, my rommmate’s tutor was Zbigniew Brzezinski.

And I have known several high-level CIA people who shall remain nameless. They also came from that sort of background, and were trained by liberal academics.


27 posted on 12/16/2007 12:44:44 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: expatpat; happyathome; Perdogg
A lot of this in the recent book by Ken Timmerman "Shadow Warriors", specifically about sabotage of Porter Goss by John Negroponte, Steve Kappes, Valerie Plame shenanigans, etc. etc.
Ken Timmerman - SHADOW WARRIORS: Traitors, Saboteurs, and the Party of Surrender

Shadow Warriors

View the SECRET email from Valerie Plame Wilson to her bosses at CIA that she was hoping would remain classified.

It shows beyond any doubt who sent Joe Wilson to Niger in Feburary 2002....

• Read my story about the Senate Intelligence committee's rebuke of Joe Wilson at Newsmax

• Sept. 17, 2007: Read my story about the return of the Rogue Weasels to the CIA at Newsmax

Timmerman: "Ultimately, Goss called Kappes’ bluff, and Kappes resigned in November 2004 – but never gave up. In the end, Kappes won, and his allies, who included Judge Lawrence Silberman and the incoming director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, urged the president to get rid of Goss and bring Kappes back."

Timmerman: Valerie Plame has got some explaining to do. In March, she testified under oath before Congress and swore she had “nothing” to do with sending her husband, former ambassador Joe Wilson, to Niger to investigate claims that Saddam Hussein was seeking to buy uranium there.

In fact, Val sent an email to her bosses recommending that they send him on this mission because he “has good relationships with both the [Prime Minster] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.”

I guess she never realized anyone would check her emails, or ask the CIA to declassify them.

Timmerman: I believe the single most catastrophic decision in the war was made by L. Paul (“Jerry”) Bremer just two days after he arrived in Baghdad in May 2003.

I comment everyone to read this particular chapter of Shadow Warriors. It is entitled, “The Viceroy Cometh,” and it describes how Bremer single-handedly overturned the long-standing strategic plan of the Bush administration to liberate Iraq and hand over power to the Iraqis, without even consulting with the White House. Bremer, who knew nothing about Iraq , decided upon arriving in Baghdad that the Iraqi Governing Council was “unrepresentative” and that he should replace them and rule Iraq directly.

Timmerman: Google the name Ahmed Chalabi and “fraud,” and you get more than 55,000 hits. Google his name plus the word “crook” and you will get more than 12,000 hits. This gives a measure of how successful the effort to smear Ahmad Chalabi’s reputation has been. As I reveal in Shadow Warriors, that effort was spear-headed by the CIA,

Why did the CIA hate Chalabi? It wasn’t because he was an Iranian “agent” (just one of many false accusations made against him). The hatred began in 1996, when Chalabi came to Washington to warn then CIA director John Deutch that a CIA-sponsored coup plot had been penetrated by Saddam Hussein. In short, he had intelligence the CIA did not, and they never forgave him for it. It’s the old story of exposing the Emperor with No Clothes.


28 posted on 12/16/2007 1:19:57 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: AliVeritas

What a thought provoking article AliVeritas and the discussion here was interesting, too.

Thank you for the ping.


29 posted on 12/16/2007 1:45:45 PM PST by Cindy
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To: AliVeritas

Maybe they need to start using the term “backdraft” instead. Always keep in mind these are government employees...nuf said.


30 posted on 12/16/2007 2:14:42 PM PST by 444Flyer (NEVER take a "mark" to "buy or sell"!Rev 13:16-18,John 3:1-36, Eph 6, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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To: 444Flyer

I believe there are openings at the DMV.


31 posted on 12/16/2007 2:15:42 PM PST by 444Flyer (NEVER take a "mark" to "buy or sell"!Rev 13:16-18,John 3:1-36, Eph 6, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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To: AliVeritas
It is also unhelpful for Senator Kennedy’s thesis that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was among those who knew in 2002 the CIA planned to waterboard some terror suspects, and made no objection to it. Current Democratic objections to the practice seem more like politics than principle.

Classic.

32 posted on 12/16/2007 5:38:30 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: AliVeritas
Hmm...finally the truth. :/...from a segment of the LMSM, no less....the truth is always the first casualty in a (foreign and/or domestic) war....
33 posted on 12/16/2007 8:14:35 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, FRed, Run. :^)
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