Posted on 12/16/2007 1:06:27 PM PST by wagglebee
Jack Kervorkin was a psychopathic serial killer. He was not a clinician, had no experience with any patients (who were not already dead), and he began his killing spree with the specific intent to murder persons who were not terminally ill and who, in most cases, were suicidal because of depression.
He was appropriately charged, convicted, and imprisoned, and his case has nothing to do with what I am talking about.
http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/hindu/sati.htm
Sati (Su-thi , a.k.a. suttee) is the traditional Hindu practice of a widow immolating herself on her husband’s funeral pyre.
“Sati” means a virtuous woman. A woman who dies burning herself on her husbands funeral fire was considered most virtuous, and was believed to directly go to heaven, redeeming all the forefathers rotting in hell, by this “meritorious” act. The woman who committed Sati was worshipped as a Goddess, and temples were built in her memory.
Sati was prevalent among certain sects of the society in ancient India, who either took the vow or deemed it a great honor to die on the funeral pyres of their husbands. Ibn Batuta (1333 A.D.) has observed that Sati was considered praiseworthy by the Hindus, without however being obligatory. The Agni Purana declares that the woman who commits sahagamana goes to heaven. However, Medhatiti pronounced that Sati was like suicide and was against the Shastras, the Hindu code of conduct. It is believed that they were not coerced, although several wives committed Sati. The majority of the widows did not undergo Sati.
Second-degree murder.
Guilty as charged.
He is a monster that I hope is around when the time comes.
I have struggled with this
At what point can do we transition from
- Healing the living, extending life
: Hippocratic Oath holds, no exceptions
to
- Prolonging the process of dying
: Ok to relieve suffering if it means accelerating death
Any physician who stands at the cusp of this decision,
without quaking at their inadequacy,
is severely damaged
babbling.geez. some people take offense over anything. talk about a martyr.
However, we don’t live in a country where the government is supposed to be imposing your religious beliefs on people who don’t share them. And “profound deterioration in Self Love” is just silly psychobabble (and certainly doesn’t have squat to do with neurology).
The desire to die may stem from depression in some cases, and may stem from a reasoned analysis of one’s future prospects in other cases, and may stem from unusual religious beliefs in yet other cases. Blanket claims that the desire to die is always the result of depression are unfounded. Furthermore, some people have suffered all their lives with severe clinical depression, and have tried every treatment known to modern medical-psychiatric science without relief, and have made a reasoned decision that they do not wish to continue living in this condition and that the prospects of new medical breakthroughs in the near future are too small to be worth suffering further in hopes of getting some benefit from them. The government has no right to force them suffer further, even if they lack the capacity to kill themselves (i.e. severely physically disabled or in a secure psych ward with anti-suicide measure in place).
Take a look at how government is funneling more and more money into the medical profession and related businesses, with more and more being spent on treatments not wanted by the patients in question. There’s plenty of financial incentive on both sides (government and the medical industry) to legally mandate forced care and forced suicide prevention). The ideas that there’s a government solution for every problem and that there’s a medical solution for every problem are becoming progressively less distinguishable from each other.
Indeed. And that's ONE of the reasons why we need to fiercely fight the imposition of socialized medicine. It's not a reason to fight legalizing doctor-assisted suicide. Two anti-freedom wrongs don't make a pro-freedom right.
All Neurologists are cross trained in Psychiatry
All Psychiatrists are cross trained in Neurology
The Boards are quite similar, different only in emphasis
These are the last “Linked Disciplines” in Medicine
Oversight agency, American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology
I trained at one of the remaining sites where Psych and Neuro were in the same Department.
My Department head is now the Vice President of the ABPN
Daniel K. Winstead, MD
I trained in one of the most violent locations in the US
Charity Hospital - New Orleans
I have treated uncounted numbers of deranged persons
in 21 years of clinical practice, having over 62000 charts,
many quite sick at multiple levels
And at the bedside of hundreds at their deaths
I may be in error
But my impressions cannot be easily discounted
In addition, just in this thread I have embedded
themes of other belief systems, Buddhism for example
Our image of who and what we are is a profoundly important construct
Determining our behavior
I made no comments re: government and law
Proverbs: “Those who love death hate me.” (God)
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