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1 posted on 12/16/2007 5:37:08 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius
Markets clear. Prediction is left to the astrologers and Climate Science Modelers.
2 posted on 12/16/2007 5:39:33 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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Oh yes more from the popular hyper-intelligencia school of thought, the Neomalthusian school.

Thomas Malthus (1766-1834) developed the well-known theory that a country’s food production cannot keep up with its population growth over the long run. Starvation, war and early death would regulate the balance between food availability and population numbers. That means that the bulk of the population would live a minimalist existence.

But Malthus, who lived at the end of the 1700s, couldn’t predict later technological breakthroughs, such as the Green Revolution, which have altered his bleak global caloric intake equation.


3 posted on 12/16/2007 5:41:09 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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If oil were in such abundance, we wouldn’t have seen that ridiculous NIE and anti-defense policy now so fixed. There’s no doubt that the economic powers-that-be will put hiring on hold and go south for their vacations during January and February, though.

May oil go over $100 and the dollar fall during their absences.


4 posted on 12/16/2007 5:46:10 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been)
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WE ARE DOOMED!! I TELL YOU!! DOOMED!!
5 posted on 12/16/2007 6:19:44 PM PST by Bean Counter (On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero...)
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People who worry about “peak” anything not only don’t have a clue how the free market works, they don’t want to allow it to work either.

With “peak oil”, given we are either at or beyond break-even for several technologies that will produce liquid fuels, what counts is only the price of the final product at the pump. That price says it all: it signals if supply is plentiful or if it may be short. That is all we need to know.

The difference between today’s availability of motor vehicle fuels and back in the early 1970’s is simple: today, you can have all the fuel you care to buy. In the 1970’s, government was controlling the price. There were times when there was no fuel to be had, at any price. And in reality people were sent to jail for selling fuel for a higher price than government allowed. Of course there were lines to fill up cars. Of course gasoline stations sometimes limited purchases to only 5 gallons. Of course people didn’t let their tank get less than 1/3 empty. Of course it was a silly mess back then, back when government was running part of the petroleum fuels market.


7 posted on 12/16/2007 8:48:41 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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If you mean Goldman Sachs hedge funds are artificially inflating oil futures and oil prices with them, then yes, markets are rigged and do not reflect reality.

In today’s markets, perspective and reality diverge because of thousands of Quants figuring bounds for writing derivatives that will expire worthless. That means driving market prices up or down as necessary to preserve their derivative premiums. So the market often makes no sense other than participating in a cycle of following news and news following markets.


8 posted on 12/16/2007 10:10:31 PM PST by Hostage
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