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From the artcile: ''We seek your leadership,'' Kevin Conrad told the Americans. ''But if for some reason you are not willing to lead, leave it to the rest of us. Please get out of the way.''

This is the weakest quote in the article. Doesn't Conrad realize that by not ratigying Kyoto, we are providing leadership? If he doesn't like the direction we are hoing, its a free world and he can do whatever he wants.

1 posted on 12/17/2007 5:00:02 AM PST by NRG1973
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Leadership = MONEY


2 posted on 12/17/2007 5:03:27 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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I wish I had been the US representative at this stupid event.

My response would have been "Well %$#& you!" before walking away laughing.

4 posted on 12/17/2007 5:06:43 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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''We have learned a historical lesson: if you expose to the world the dealings of the United States, they will ultimately back down,'' he said.
5 posted on 12/17/2007 5:07:43 AM PST by EBH (Loose lips sink ships.)
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We should lead. Conrad is right, but not about the direction. We should be the first to get out of the UN.


6 posted on 12/17/2007 5:10:49 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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"....the way was cleared Saturday for adoption of the ''Bali Roadmap", after a dramatic half-hour that set the stage for a grinding two years of climate talks to come."

These talks will accomplish nothing, will change nothing, because in the end this nation will not sacrifice it's growth and prosperity for that of other nations based on a plan that is grossly unfair and intended, in the end, to accomplish the Socialist plan of wealth redistribution. That aside, the schism between the pro and anti human caused GW theorys grows wider by the day and will provide ample ammunition for us to use against the nut bag gloom and doomers.

9 posted on 12/17/2007 5:13:39 AM PST by aroundabout
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has any one seen an estimate of the life style impacts of a these kind of reductions? I’m not looking for one of those silly carbon offset calculaters. I’d like to see something along the lines of this is how much we would have to reduce and this is what that would mean to our life styles. How much would we have to reduce the size of our houses, what would the typical automobile look like, how many fewer flights would be allowed?


10 posted on 12/17/2007 5:14:21 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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Don’t dis my compact florescent light bulbs, BRO!
11 posted on 12/17/2007 5:14:27 AM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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From the second google hit:

Kevin Conrad is executive director for the Coalition for Rainforest Nations, an. intergovernmental initiative which seeks to better align market incentives ...

12 posted on 12/17/2007 5:14:29 AM PST by palmer
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Did they chant

BURN THE UNBELIEVERS! KILL THE HERETICS!"?

13 posted on 12/17/2007 5:15:31 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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“we seek your leadership. but if for some reason you are not willing to lead, leave it to the rest of us. please get out of the way.”

???


14 posted on 12/17/2007 5:15:48 AM PST by ripley
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But if for some reason you are not willing to lead, leave it to the rest of us. Please get out of the way.'

Rather impertinent, coming from someone who is no doubt going to be looking for heavy US funding, to support this socialist boondoggle. Sort of like a penniless son, blaming and haranguing his parents for money, imho. If this really were about the purported dangers of "climate change," there would be no exceptions or allowances for any part of the world.

16 posted on 12/17/2007 5:19:43 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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I would wear those boos as a badge of honor...


17 posted on 12/17/2007 5:23:46 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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From the artcile: ''We seek your leadership,'' Kevin Conrad told the Americans. ''But if for some reason you are not willing to lead, leave it to the rest of us. Please get out of the way.''

Hey, if the guy from the country with zero industry wants to make a symbolic statement and ratify Kyoto, go right ahead, his country is free to remain a zero industry country for as long as it wants.

Those of us who actually have economies can feel equally free to differ.

18 posted on 12/17/2007 5:24:11 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("Hi, My name is Mitt, and I invented the fifty dollar abortion!")
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19 posted on 12/17/2007 5:24:53 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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"Please get out of the way."

Done.

20 posted on 12/17/2007 5:28:09 AM PST by Libloather (Hillary donors find their way to the cover of Time. And the very next day they're doing it...)
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21 posted on 12/17/2007 5:28:41 AM PST by SkyPilot
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Last month, the Peoples Public of China became the world’s number one largest producer of “greenhouse gases”.

Our own role in generating these gases is falling. Less every year.

China’s is growing rapidly.

China should no more get a waiver from the most stringent enforcement of every “global warming” restriction, than should for example ... India.

Anything else, is simply yet another scheme to hobble the USA.


22 posted on 12/17/2007 5:31:56 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I'm a proud Yankee Doodle Protectionist)
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If they want to leadership, maybe we should lead them to Cuba or Venezuela? I’ll be one of the millions lined up to watch the UN pack up and move.
23 posted on 12/17/2007 5:34:57 AM PST by newnhdad
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Glenn Reynolds
THE A.P. GETS IT WRONG ON KYOTO AGAIN:
"The U.S. is the only major industrial nation to reject Kyoto. President Bush contended the emissions cuts would harm the U.S. economy, and should have been imposed on China, India and other fast-growing poorer economies."

We've been over this whole thing before, and more than once: "On July 25, 1997, before the Kyoto Protocol was finalized (although it had been fully negotiated, and a penultimate draft was finished), the U.S. Senate unanimously passed by a 95–0 vote the Byrd-Hagel Resolution (S. Res. 98),[40] which stated the sense of the Senate was that the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol that did not include binding targets and timetables for developing as well as industrialized nations or "would result in serious harm to the economy of the United States". On November 12, 1998, Vice President Al Gore symbolically signed the protocol. Both Gore and Senator Joseph Lieberman indicated that the protocol would not be acted upon in the Senate until there was participation by the developing nations.[41] The Clinton Administration never submitted the protocol to the Senate for ratification."

You have to wonder, though, why people bother to listen to the Associated Press when it can't get basic bits of recent history right.

24 posted on 12/17/2007 5:35:35 AM PST by sono (Hillary's Campaign Theme Song? Donovan, "Season of The Witch")
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If only we had a gonadic president our atendees would snap their attache cases shut and storm out of the meeting place!

A gonadic president would do all in his power (along with his vice-president) to mount the bully pulpit that comes with the job and announce his intent to pull our nation out of the cesspool known as the UN and commence drilling for oil in the so-called 'pristine wildnerss'. He'd flush them out of Flushing Meadow, he'd recall our Ambassador to unfriendly nations, (practically all of them) he'd shut down the border, he'd recall our ambassador to disgraceful Mexico and place a moratorium on ALL immigration to the United States until all those illegals here are sorted out and kicked back across the border from whence they came

That is, of course, if a gonadic president sat in the oval orifice today!

Not to fear, Empress Hitlery stands ready to take charge and make our lives even more miserable, and if not her, then Osama bin Bama will build a mosque on every street corner even if he has to remove the gas station currently occupying those corners.

25 posted on 12/17/2007 5:37:18 AM PST by fweingart (Life's a bitch. So why vote for one?)
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