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To: Ken H

This Gestapo crap needs to end before some innocent person is killed ...


2 posted on 12/17/2007 8:39:26 AM PST by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson - Duncan Hunter for POTUS and Vice Potus in either order)
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To: clamper1797
This Gestapo crap needs to end before some innocent person is killed ...

I stand in agreement. There is no reason for these types of raids unless someone's life in in imminent and immediate danger.

10 posted on 12/17/2007 8:43:21 AM PST by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: clamper1797

This Gestapo crap needs to end before MORE innocent PEOPLE ARE killed ...


13 posted on 12/17/2007 8:48:13 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE ("life is dangerous")
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To: clamper1797
This Gestapo crap needs to end before some innocent person is killed ...

There have been plenty of innocent people killed by these Jack Booted thugs. When innocent people start shooting back, well good luck for them.

17 posted on 12/17/2007 8:49:49 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: clamper1797
This Gestapo crap needs to end before some innocent person is killed ...

just another fun and games for guys that couldn't make it in spec ops but really like wearing the balaclava, black helmets and body armor with dynamic entrances. What is the point? I'll gladly show them how to do a snatch and grab so that they never have to blow down a door again. But it just doesn't look as cool, does it?

Oh and by the way, innocent people have been killed. But they're poor so it just doesn't matter.

How come they don't do this to the MS-13, Crips, Blood, LK's or Mexican Mafia? They KNOW they've got drugs and guns. But it's easier to go after grannies and guys with kids in their house. I like LEO's. I shoot with them. But puhleeze, anybody with half a brain knows that these are just PR knock downs in order to justify increasing budgets and maybe, just maybe they get to buy more toys.....like an APC...or hell a real tank. That would be great, huh?

18 posted on 12/17/2007 8:50:37 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: clamper1797; Travis McGee; Squantos; Joe Brower

Agreed. Routine warrants should be served during daylight hours after knocking. So what if they flush anything? Only drugs can be flushed and they leave residue. If the evidence is gone, the perps can explain it to their suppliers. And it’s hard to flush stolen car parts.

Any other types of raids should be for extreme emergencies only (hostage rescue, for example).


21 posted on 12/17/2007 8:51:57 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: clamper1797

Time to put these dogs on a leash.

I’m all FOR having a SWAT team, or whatever they call them now, but when they get bad intel on the perps and kick in the wrong guy innocent people die, including cops.

If someone came crashing in MY house in the middle of the night, I’ll probably go down fighting, since I don’t keep kevlar in the bedroom usually, but I damned sure have an arsenal that will take down someone wearing it....

Sorry, police should NOT be kicking in doors like that, unless it is a KNOWN hostage situation or something worse. When you go to an address in the middle of the night (or whenever) and you’re trying to surprise the occupants by terrorizing them into submission, then you’re cruising for a bruising.


33 posted on 12/17/2007 9:02:35 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: clamper1797
"This Gestapo crap needs to end before some innocent person is killed ..."

If memory serves, that has already happened several times. The most egregious was the Weaver family (Ruby Ridge) when the feds raided to arrest him for "selling a sawed-off shotgun". As I recall, his wife, son, and baby were killed.

39 posted on 12/17/2007 9:09:27 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: clamper1797
before some innocent person is killed ...

Huh? Thousands of innocents have already been killed in an "Epidemic of Isolated Incidents."

http://www.cato.org/raidmap/index.php#

41 posted on 12/17/2007 9:10:49 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: clamper1797

before? more like before more...


51 posted on 12/17/2007 9:28:19 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: clamper1797
This Gestapo crap needs to end before some innocent person is killed ...

Too late. There's already a long list of victims.

69 posted on 12/17/2007 10:05:29 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: clamper1797

too late. Innocent victims of sloppy police work have already been killed by SWAT teams. It’s too bad when the leadersipin PDs uses swat teams like dumb bombs.


77 posted on 12/17/2007 10:27:55 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: clamper1797
This Gestapo crap needs to end before some innocent person is killed ...

Way too late for that. Many innocents have been killed in this "wrong address" or "bad scumbag provided information" raids.

95 posted on 12/17/2007 1:21:50 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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