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Hurtin' (And then they came for Mark Steyn)
David Warren Online ^ | 12/16/2007 | David Warren

Posted on 12/17/2007 9:55:14 AM PST by mojito

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To: mojito
I think back, for instance, to the dismissals we received when I published Ian Hunter's important article,

What does Mott The Hoople have to do with this?

21 posted on 12/17/2007 12:59:19 PM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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To: subterfuge

All the Young Dudes are now running the Human Rights Tribunals.


22 posted on 12/17/2007 1:37:45 PM PST by mojito
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To: goldstategop
I fully expect Mark Steyn to be fined along with his publisher and banned from speaking and writing for life anywhere in the Dominion.
Sounds like we'll be needin' to build a SECOND border wall after we get the first one done.
23 posted on 12/17/2007 1:41:43 PM PST by George Smiley (This tagline has been Reutered. (Can you tell?))
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To: mojito

Thanks for informing us of this travesty.

It is a case that should clang alarm bells right across Canada and our country.

Viva Mark Steyn!!


24 posted on 12/17/2007 2:09:58 PM PST by victim soul
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To: mojito
From the text.

I mentioned last week the case Mohamed Elmasry and the Canadian Islamic Congress have bought against McLean's Magazine for publishing Mark Steyn.....

As Wikipedia states, this is the same Professor Elmasry who openly supports Hamas and Islamic Jihad in as far as fund raising in Canada is concerned. He had thrown out that Israeli civilians were a fair target of suicide bombers. He backed up and said he meant those 18 years and over, because they would eventually serve in the Israeli armed forces.

He was not prosecuted for hate crime. The stench of fear is abroad in the Dominion.

25 posted on 12/17/2007 2:19:58 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: mojito
This will not end with the decision of the Human Rights tribunal. It will eventually get to the Supreme Court of Canada. Lets see what happens.

McLeans Magazine will not let it rest without Superior Court review, neither will Steyn.

Another landmark case will now begin.

And what will be considered? ( see 2(b) below)

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Constitution Act, 1982 (79) PART I

Canadian charter of rights and freedoms

Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:

Guarantee of Rights and Freedoms

Rights and freedoms in Canada

1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

Fundamental Freedoms

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:

a) freedom of conscience and religion;

b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;

c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and

d) freedom of association.

....................etc.

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26 posted on 12/17/2007 7:15:37 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: mojito
Does anyone have a link to the allegedly offensive McLean's article that Mark wrote? I would love to read it.
27 posted on 12/17/2007 7:19:58 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: mojito
mojito wrote: Too many FReepers are unaware that Mark Steyn is being prosecuted in Canada's "Human Rights" tribunal: a PC-Canada version of a Stalinist kangaroo court. Steyn and Maclean's magazine are under assault from the Canadian version of CAIR. If the PC liberal witchhunt succeeds, it will be the end of anything appoaching free speech in Canada.

On one Canadian forum, I posted excerpts of the Supreme Court decision Times v. Sullivan and freedom of speech was derided as freedom to libel and slander.

Freedom is not for cowards. The people who cower at offensive remarks and seek to heal their verbal boo-boos at Human Rights Commissions lack any real courage.

28 posted on 12/17/2007 7:26:47 PM PST by JBGUSA (If it's us or them, I choose us.)
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To: Candor7
Candor7 wrote: Does anyone have a link to the allegedly offensive McLean's article that Mark wrote? I would love to read it.

Here it is (link)

29 posted on 12/17/2007 7:37:53 PM PST by JBGUSA (If it's us or them, I choose us.)
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To: Cicero
Excellent piece. I thought it was by Marc Steyn himself, until I looked twice at the credits. And that’s a compliment.

If you're not familiar with David Warren, he's a treasure from the Great White North much in the vein of our beloved Steyn. He's a columnist in several places and has a site at davidwarrenonline.com. I think. His essays are not to be missed.

30 posted on 12/17/2007 7:42:03 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: mojito
This is all very good writing. I don't see anything hateful about it. Opinionated? Yes. Hate speech? I don't think so.

But I see nothing like: " Death to all the Jews."

The Human Rights Commission may have to eat its panties on this one.

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The little mosque that couldn't

We're so boundlessly tolerant we tolerate endless dreary shows about how intolerant we are

MARK STEYN | Feb 05, 2007

The other day I was giving a speech in Washington and, in the questions afterwards, the subject of Little Mosque on the Prairie came up.

"Muslim is the new gay," I said. Which got a laugh. "That's off the record," I added. "I want a sporting chance of getting home alive." And I went on to explain that back in the nineties, sitcoms and movies began introducing gay characters who were the most likeable and got all the best lines, and that Muslims were likely to be the lucky beneficiaries of a similar dispensation. In both cases, the intent is the same: to make Islam, like homosexuality, something only uptight squares are uncool with.

At the time I hadn't seen so much as a trailer for Little Mosque. But it seemed a reasonable enough assumption that nine times out of 10 the joke would be on the "irrational" prejudices and drearily provincial ignorance of the Saskatchewan hicks. And sure enough, if you settled down to watch the first episode, it opened up with some stringy stump-toothed redneck stumbling on a bunch of Muslims praying and racing for the telephone. "Is this the Terrorist Attack Hotline? You want me to hold?"

Well, of course, the local Anglican vicar tries to explain that he's just rented the parish hall to a harmless group of local Mohammedans. "This is simply a pilot project," he says reassuringly.

"Pilot?" gasps the redneck. "They're training pilots?" And off he goes to the talk-radio blowhard who is, naturally, a right-wing hatemonger.

Meanwhile, the mosque's dishy new imam is waiting to board his flight and yakking into his cellphone about how taking the gig in Mercy, Sask., is going to be career suicide. Another passenger overhears that last word and the cops pull the guy out of line, and give him the third degree: "You lived for over a year in Afghanistan?" "I was volunteering for a development agency," says the metrosexual cappuccino-swilling imam, who's very droll about his predicament: if my story doesn't hold up, he cracks, "you can deport me to Syria." "Hey," warns the bozo flatfoot sternly, "you do not get to choose which country we deport you to." Fair enough. Never mind that, in the real Canada, the talk-radio guy would be off the air and hounded into oblivion by the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission; and that, instead of looking like Rick Mercer after 20 minutes on a sunbed and being wry and self-deprecating and Toronto-born, your typical Western imam is fiercely bearded, trained in Saudi Arabia, and such linguistic dexterity as he has is confined to Arabic; and that airline officials who bounce suspicious Muslims from the flight wind up making public apologies and undergoing sensitivity training; and that, in the event they do bust up a terrorist plot, the Mounties inevitably issue statements saying this in no way reflects on any particular community in our glorious Canadian mosaic, particularly any community beginning with "Is-" and ending with "-lam"; and that the most prominent Canadians "volunteering" for good works in Afghanistan were the Khadr family, whose pa was sprung from the slammer in Pakistan by Prime Minister Chrétien in order that he could resume his "charity work" and, for his pains, he had to suffer vicious Islamophobic headlines like "Caught in a muddle: an arrested aid worker appeals for Chrétien's help" (Maclean's).

Never mind all that. There is after all no more heartwarming tradition in Canadian popular culture -- well, okay, unpopular culture: it's the CBC, after all -- than the pleasant frisson induced by the routine portrayal of rural Canadians as halfwit rednecks. One would characterize it as Canadophobic were it not for the fact that the CBC's enthusiasm for portraying us as a nation of knuckle-dragging sister-shaggers reinforces our smug conviction that we're the most progressive people on the planet: we celebrate diversity through the ruthless homogeneity of CBC programming; we're so boundlessly tolerant we tolerate an endless parade of dreary sitcoms and dramas about how intolerant we are. In that sense, the relentlessly cardboard stereotypes are a way of flattering the audience. In the second episode of Little Mosque, for example, the non-Muslim gals of Mercy stage a protest against the mosque: every single woman in the march is large and plain and simple-minded. The only white folks who aren't condescended to are the convert wife of the Muslim patriarch and the impeccably ecumenical Anglican minister (though his church, unlike the mosque, is dying). But in this cross-cultural gag-fest, what of the jokes on the other side? Well, these are the cuddliest Muslims you've ever met. They're not just moderate Muslims, they're moderately funny! Not screamingly funny like, say, Omar Brooks, the British Muslim comic whose boffo Islamostand-up routine was reported in the Times of London last year: "At one point he announces dramatically that the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center 'changed many people's lives.' After a pause, he brings the house down by adding: 'Especially those inside.' "

He didn't bring the house down literally. He leaves that to Mohammed Atta. By contrast, Little Mosque's creator, Zarqa Nawaz, opts for Ozzie and Harriet in a hijab. The nearest thing to an Islamist fire-breathing mullah in the cast warns sternly about how Canadian society lures Muslims into decadent ways: "Wine gums. Rye bread. Liquor-ish. Western traps designed to seduce Muslims to drink alcohol . . . The enemy," he warns, "is in the kitchen."

And, eavesdropping outside, the Muslim women joke that, if the enemy's in the kitchen, perhaps he could do the washing up. Boy, I loved that gag when Samantha did it to Darren on the second season of Bewitched, and it's just as funny in a hijab. This is the point, of course: the Muslims on the show are scaled down, from a global security threat to warm low-key domesticity, to all the same generation-gap and battle-of-the-sexes japes as every other hi-honey-I'm-home sitcom. Miss Nawaz is certainly capable of a sharp line -- " 'Good-looking terrorist'? Isn't that an oxymoron?" -- but for the most part she holds off: for a cross-cultural comedy, it's striking that both groups operate to white stereotypes -- it's just that the Muslims have been handed the blandly benign stereotypes of Life With Father. The synopses of upcoming episodes -- "Yasir's overbearing mother wants him to try something new -- a second wife," "Rayyan and her mother end up on opposite sides of the fence over coed swimming" -- suggest the familiar issue-of-the-week format of long-forgotten, worthily controversial sitcoms like Maude, the ones that won all the awards and are never in reruns. But here controversies are painless: when gender-segregating barriers are proposed for the mosque, the savvy quasi-feminist women have no problem running rings round the menfolk; the stern dad determined to put his adolescent daughter into her veil crumples without a fight. "Next week confusion abounds when Rayyan has a pronounced bulge in her belly and her brother arranges an honour killing. But it turns out she's just hiding the latest huge edition of The Oxford Anthology of Islamofeminist Writing!"

I would love to see a really great Muslim sitcom. After all, one of the worst forms of discrimination is to exclude someone from the joke. Gags are one of the great pillars of a common culture, which is why bicultural societies tend toward the humourless: see Belgium. (Before you call in a hate crime to the Council on Belgo-Canadian Relations, I should point out I'm semi-Flemish.) You don't have to look hard to find comedy in the Muslim world. In a debate at Trinity College, Dublin, recently, the aforementioned Omar Brooks said that Muhammad's message to non-believers was: "I come to slaughter all of you." He meant it, but come on, you'd have to have a heart of stone not to weep with laughter. Warming to his theme, he said, "We are the Muslims. We drink the blood of the enemy, and we can face them anywhere."

He won't be getting a call from Little Mosque any time soon. But, on the other hand, he is a genuine practising Muslim, which is more than can be said for any of the cast of the CBC's sitcom. The Muslim members of ACTRA decided to sit this thing out, and so every warm fluffy moderate Muslim on the show is played by a Protestant or Catholic, Italian or Indian. As comedy of bicultural manners goes, it's like a surreal latter-day PC version of the old vaudeville act "The Hebrew and the Coon," where the Hebrew was the genuine article and the Coon was played by Al Jolson. So today, Muslim funnymen are happy to stand up in public and threaten to drink your blood but won't risk doing anodyne CBC sitcoms. Which is also pretty hilarious when you think about it.

As for my throwaway that "Muslim is the new gay," well, Washington isn't like Swift Current. D.C.'s a sleepy backwater with not much going on. So, on a slow news day, a Beltway reporter picked up on the line and sought a reaction from a local Islamo-big shot, Hady Amr. Predictably enough, Mr. Amr denounced my observation as "inappropriate":

" 'American Muslims are taking their rightful place at the political table,' Amr said, 'and America needs to come to terms with that in terms of its rhetoric.' " Oh, dear. You try to pay a compliment and it gets taken as a beheading offence. Zarqa Nawaz has done her best, but for most of her co-religionists Islam remains no laughing matter.

31 posted on 12/17/2007 7:43:40 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: mojito
I mentioned last week the case Mohamed Elmasry and the Canadian Islamic Congress have brought against Maclean's magazine for publishing Mark Steyn -- simultaneously before multiple human rights commissions, a tactic that is itself an egregious abuse of process. It is a case that should clang alarm bells right across Canada. Yet we've heard only a few modest tinkles.

How can we help Mark Steyn?

32 posted on 12/17/2007 7:50:49 PM PST by GOPJ (Drug dealers are NOT "unlicensed pharmacists" and illegals are NOT "undocumented workers". Bailey)
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To: JBGUSA
Thanks. I am playing catch up on this issue. After reading the article, I can't see the Human Rights Commission having any grounds to censor MacLeans ofr Steyn. There is no hate speech there. Steyn talks about demographics. He does not counsel genocide. He simply tells the truth.

This will be an extended legal battle, and the Human Rights Commission hearing and decision will only be the first phase.

BTW, Mark is quite right about what is happening in Japan and in Europe. The Muzzies want to muzzle and discredit Steyn.

This article should be reprinted and mailed to every Canadian who can read.

33 posted on 12/17/2007 8:07:03 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: mojito
All the Young Dudes are now running the Human Rights Tribunals.

Uh-oh. (insert David bowie joke here)

34 posted on 12/18/2007 5:09:48 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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