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Global ocean temperatures "plunge"
from data gathered by the National Climatic Data Center ^ | 12/17/07 | Dangus

Posted on 12/17/2007 11:43:27 AM PST by dangus

In 2000, when scientists declared that the Earth's temperature was rising, much anxiety ensued, even though the increase was only half of a degree over sixty years. In just the past year, however, the Earth's temperature has reversed, yielding back one-half of that increase.

The past month's (November's) global oceanic data from the National Climatic Data Center has now been released, and the Earth's oceans surface is .2548 degrees warmer than the 1880-2007 average. That's down from .5250 last year and .5597 roughly a decade ago.

There have been drops of roughly a couple tenths of a degree previously, in spite of the general warming trend. But such drops, blamed on "La Ninas," have occured immediately following temperature spikes. What makes this current La Nina unusual is that the current temperature drop follows an imperceptibly small temperature spike.

As a result, the cold snap is pulling down even the six-year running average of temperatures.

This does not mean that the warming trend has necessarily reversed itself; there have, indeed been declines in running averages even longer than that during this decline. In fact, a cooling trend lasted from the 1940s through the 1970s.

However, unable to justify drastic temperatures with fears of the temperature rising a single degree or less next century, the global-warming doomsday-preachers have been asserting that the surge in global warming in the late 1990s indicated an acceleration of global warming.

The notion of such an acceleration seems difficult to reconcile with the new data: The world's oceans were warmer during warm spells of the 1940s.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingisbs
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1 posted on 12/17/2007 11:43:27 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.ocean.90S.90N.df_1901-2000mean.dat


2 posted on 12/17/2007 11:44:50 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Algore will be deeply saddened, of course.


3 posted on 12/17/2007 11:45:29 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: dangus

Dang global cooling!

It’s a new iceage.

We are all going to die.


4 posted on 12/17/2007 11:46:27 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("The most expensive thing we pay for is ignorance" - El Rushbo)
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To: JamesP81
But the Polar Bears will be happy.

Isn't it all about the Polar Bears?

5 posted on 12/17/2007 11:47:07 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: dangus
The notion of such an acceleration seems difficult to reconcile with the new data:

Accelerating growth leads to exponential curves which leads to very scary computer models. Fear-mongers have been using the power of exponential growth curves to scare the masses for centuries.

6 posted on 12/17/2007 11:48:01 AM PST by Always Right
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To: JamesP81
Algore will be deeply saddened, of course.

Prolly not. They don't go by global warming anymore, it won't work and they know it. Now the point out "climate change". This is a change. They are always right under this scenario.

Regards

7 posted on 12/17/2007 11:48:33 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: JamesP81

Just try to get him to admit it!


8 posted on 12/17/2007 11:48:55 AM PST by benjamin032
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To: dangus
...an imperceptibly small temperature spike

Can it still be called a "spike" if it is "imperceptibly small"?

9 posted on 12/17/2007 11:48:58 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: dangus

It appears to me that such a minor change might be well within the normal measuring error. Too many variables to control to get a repeatable reading?

What do you think?


10 posted on 12/17/2007 11:49:51 AM PST by TNoldman
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To: dangus

*I* have long been saying that we are in global cooling. Why has no one listened and sent me on a first class trip to exotic Bali for a few weeks so as to hear me out? The world is crazy!


11 posted on 12/17/2007 11:51:24 AM PST by bvw
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I wonder about the accuracy of the 1880 “global” ocean surface temperature... and the comparability of that number to one measured today.

As I remember, the “global” satellite monitoring system then was a little less mature than today.

However, I’m sure that they have some pretty good assurance to call it down to 0.2548 degrees... either Fahrenheit or Celsius!


12 posted on 12/17/2007 11:52:36 AM PST by nctexan
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To: dangus; cogitator

Coggie -

Care to comment?


13 posted on 12/17/2007 11:52:38 AM PST by kidd
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To: dangus

They’re able to measure temperature to ten-thousandths of a degree precision?? I’d really like to see the thermometer that generated these numbers. (Yes, I know, these numbers are undoubtedly the result of averaging across a huge number of different thermometers. They’ve probably also applied ‘correction factors’ to the raw readings.)


14 posted on 12/17/2007 11:52:56 AM PST by Bob
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To: dangus

Oh please! If you trust this, you’d have trusted Hitler!


15 posted on 12/17/2007 11:52:56 AM PST by ryan71
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To: dangus

Iz that cuz itz winture outsid?


16 posted on 12/17/2007 11:54:16 AM PST by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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It’s Bush’s fault.


17 posted on 12/17/2007 11:54:18 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Check out ---->> www.eaglebrookchurch.com <<----)
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To: NeoCaveman

18 posted on 12/17/2007 11:54:22 AM PST by Constitution Day (I didn't get a "Harrumph!" outta that guy...)
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To: NeoCaveman
It’s a new iceage.

I think this is much closer to occurring given historic trends and data. Probably within 100+ years if the 100,000 year cycle holds true.

19 posted on 12/17/2007 11:56:59 AM PST by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: dangus

Temps plunge? So what, it’s irrelevent. It’s not global warming it’s climate change. Haven’t you been paying attention? /s/


20 posted on 12/17/2007 11:57:12 AM PST by saganite (Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space)
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