The bus of Republican Presidential hopeful, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, arrives in Manchester, Iowa, Tuesday, Dec. 18,2007. (AP Photo/Mark Hirsch)
Posted on 12/18/2007 10:46:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge
Again you repeat your undefended premise. What are you talking about? Do you honestly think today’s polls are a good indication of how well a candidate’s image works? If so, you are too stupid to be outside off a leash. Remember Howard Dean?
Do you have any reason to believe Fred needs a new image or do you just enjoy posting nonsense for the pleasure of making a fool out of yourself in public.
The bus of Republican Presidential hopeful, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, arrives in Manchester, Iowa, Tuesday, Dec. 18,2007. (AP Photo/Mark Hirsch)
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another one for ya....
Another enthusiastic showing!
1—Many interviews I’ve where he has been lackluster in his presentation and delivery.
2—The many conservative writers who have gone to his events and reported that they were underwhelmed.
3—The fact that the numbers of people turning out to see him are small. The article that starts this thread refers to a meeting of about 30.
4—His presentation and performance in debates.
5—His poll numbers languish with the others who have the same image problem
I understand you are energized by the content of what he says. I consider my self a conservative a little to Fred’s right. In my opinion he is second only to Duncan Hunter in his conservatism. I also am fired up by the content of what he says. As a former public speaker, trained and experienced in elocution, As the current president of an advertising company who every day evaluates the American marketplace and makes decisions about how best to market products to Americans, Fred need to make radical and immediate changes.
It’s sad when a persons best argument is in effect,
“You Big Dummy!”
You must not understand that I like Fred and want him to make changes that will help him win. I’d probably support him very strongly if I thought he could win. I’ve been trying to get people on this thread to brain storm with me about things Fred could do to change his image, market himself better and all I get from some is name calling. Is there no one who can come up with an idea to add energy to the campaign? Would it be a bad thing to add energy to the campaign? Is the frustration that deteriorates into calling me names because there are no positive creative ideas out there?
I hope its not a case of too little too late.
Look maybe you could be a Fred supporter at some point but i doubt it. The guy is who he is. Take it or leave it. One thing that actaully excites people like me is he is not willing to do the things you advocate. He is not fake.
If you don’t support him fine. Just don’t spam these threads with cliches and how if he acted different you’d feel better about him.
“How can the Fred campaign change things to make him more energetic, engaging and attractive to the average American voter who makes decisions based on such superficial criteria?”
here is your answer - they aren’t going to. Make your decision and move on. the line of reasoning is just tiresome after a while.
I’m not spaming. Most of the discourse on this thread has been due to people trying to engage me. I have answered each one with reason and respect.
“To say the guy is who he is. Take it or leave it.” is not the wisest of positions. Doesn’t a single guy shower, dress up, shave, comb his hair, and put on his best behavior for a date with a girl? That’s all I’m asking for. Fred needs to retool how he presents himself to the American voter. If he doesn’t he’ll be gone after South Carolina.
“That line of reasoning” is only tiresome to the person who realizes there will be no change in the Thompson campaign and that the guy who is so right on the issues is going to lose because he won’t “comb his hair and brush his teeth” metaphorically speaking. If you can’t handle the debate perhaps you should find another thread.
That's REALLY getting old fast.
EXACTLY what I said to him in #66.
This is something I dont understand. When you say “energy” and “personality”, “no fire in the belly”, what exactly do you mean? Should Fred scream everytime he talks (worked well for Dean). Perhaps Fred should not hold his hand over his heart when the pledge is recited? Fred is a steady, calm and witty personality. I prefer those over a screaming lying lunitic or a youngster with ZERO experience (your comparison to osama obama).
“If Fred is the nominee and Obama is the Rats’ nominee the youth vs age and energy vs tired contrast will be overwhelming.”......Again, don’t get your “tired” contrast. Would you feel better if Fred got his eyes “done”? Would that do it for you? sheesh!
“Doesn’t a single guy shower, dress up, shave, comb his hair, and put on his best behavior for a date with a girl?”
Yes he does - and Fred has done that. But that is not what you are asking for. You are asking for the single guy to over extend and buy a fancy car, etc so the girl will think he is rich when he is not.
Maybe you are right and it is just not meant to be for Fred. At this point, however, it is way to early to tell.
And my answer in #92 still pertains...
I have not said lazy. I have not attempted to explain the MSM’s accusation.
I have said that the average voter believes that Fred looks tired, unenthusiastic, and old. I’m not saying this is so. I am saying this is the appearance perceived by the average voter. For Fred to win this perception has to change. If it can’t be changed or if the campaign refuses to change it the more youthful and exciting person will win.
“You are asking for the single guy to over extend and buy a fancy car, etc so the girl will think he is rich when he is not.”
No. That’s not what I’m asking. I don’t want Fred to be phoney. He wouldn’t anyway. He ha too much character for that. I want him to put the best Fred forward. He came much closerto it last night in his Hannity & Colmes interview.
And as I said in #113...
OK. You got your irrelevant shot in.
Now.
Fred has an image problem. To the average voter he appears tired, old, and not inspirational. Given the fascination that the American public has with all things young, vigorous, and exciting, if he doesn’t change the public impression of him he’ll lose. People vote with both their heads and their hearts. He can be right on the issues but that’s not enough. People have to...As the kids say... FEEL him.
PLEASE...ANSWER MY QUSTION.
What can Fred do to change his image?
How about having an young, inspiring kick-off speaker to introduce him at each stop?
A warm up act? Good grief. This is the presidency. The last thing we need in our candidates is more artifice. He is what he is, and frankly, I think the American public is ready for authenticity. The constantly shifting style personas we get from candidates trying to respond and appeal to everyone and everything are signs of weakness, not strength. The estimated 60% of Iowa caucus goers still undecided pretty muich speaks to the success of the pro handlers' efforts to package a persona that resonates.
It's not Fred that needs fixing. Responding to the false "lazy, slow-moving" memes legitimizes them. Fred needs to stays the hell away from such helpful advice. So, to your posed question, how can we begin to turn the common perception around? We can start by not repeating them under the guise of being helpful.
As I said in #48...
Now how can we (Fred) begin to turn the common perception around?
How about finding a young energetic celebrity, perhaps a singer, to endorse him and tour with him?
How about having an young, inspiring kick-off speaker to introduce him at each stop?
To these I will add...
How about making some campaign commercials that show the energy of some of the campaign stops with music, excited people, flag waving chldren? The low key, fireside chat with Fred commercias are good to show his serious side. What is needed now is ENERGY!
How about a popular celebrity endorsement and public introduction? The celebrity draws the crowd and Fred wows them with his vision for America.
How about music, music, music. Heart throbing, foot stomping, hand clapping music?
Does any one have any ideas about how to add energy to the campaign?
I’ve heard similar things from most of the posters. But...It’s not artifice to put your best foot forward. To clean up and make yourself as presentable as possible before you “go pick up your date.”
It is not the guise of help. I want the most conservative candidate possible elected. Fred is the best chance of that.
The biggest impediment to his election is the do nothing, change nothing attitude of his campaign and his supporters such as the posters here who seem to deny the reality about how the real world actually works.
Doing what he’s done, Fred has gone from about 20% down to about 10% in most states. And most of the posters here seem to want him to just continue the same campaign style that has produced that drop. It’s like a football team that does pretty well early in the game but later falls behind. Instead of making adjustments that will help them turn it around and win they inist on plowing forward with the same old game plan that is not working.
I had some interest in your post until.....”How about a popular celebrity endorsement”. Okay, I am back from barfing now.
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