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Question: Anyone been able to disprove The Urban Legend view of General Giap

Posted on 12/19/2007 6:59:14 AM PST by april15Bendovr

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To: dfwgator

Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.

There is a reason that the 9-11 truthers are so adamant that the US government flew remote control planes into the WTC building and shot a missile into the Pentagon.


61 posted on 12/19/2007 9:19:59 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Most notably was the spy who wrote for Time Magazine while supporting the North Vietnamese.

Time has an Australian reporter embedded with the “insurgents” in the current war.

Same as it ever was.


62 posted on 12/19/2007 9:21:19 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Good morning.
“Don’t forget the perfidy of the MSM...”

The names may change, but they are still our enemy.

Michael Frazier

63 posted on 12/19/2007 9:21:33 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: april15Bendovr

It wasnt Gen Giap, it was col Tin.


64 posted on 12/19/2007 9:39:20 AM PST by weezel
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To: weegee
Time has an Australian reporter embedded with the “insurgents” in the current war.

That's beyond disgusting. Of course, if the bastard gets shot/bombed ...

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Yep, you guessed it...

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IT'S ALL BOOOOOOSHE'S FAULT!!!!!!!!

65 posted on 12/19/2007 9:58:17 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: weezel
It wasnt Gen Giap, it was col Tin.

Just spoke to an ex-pat regarding Gen. Giap whom he met after the war. Said the man respected our troops immensely and made "suggesting" comments he thought they'd( N 'nam) lost a couple times. This is not to say the quotation was correct but you know, our country did a horrible disservice to every vet in that war and the South Vietnamese. I graduated HS when Vietnam collapsed, and when I turned 18 about six months later I joined the Navy. All the hippies and negative commie nellies made me puke. Chose to go to college instead for a few years but I served....as for all those soldiers dead and wounded for life I salute you with all my heart.

66 posted on 12/19/2007 10:09:24 AM PST by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. DDE)
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To: kabar
Very good recap.

You might be interested in reading “The Palace File” which has a great documentation on this time line from a S. Vietnamese insider.

Yep! Your Jan. 14, 1975 statement about the US not keeping its commitment is supported.

There was also a congressional committee to see what we should do in the last days. Rep. John Murtha was on it. Never have read what he actually did while there or what he said when he got back. Committee did recommend no further funding.

67 posted on 12/19/2007 2:41:50 PM PST by tbird-james
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To: tbird-james
If you want a good source of information on the Vietnam War, check out The Boston Manifesto. As a Vietnam vet, I found if very informative.

I got the timeline from here.It is the best I have seen.

Thanks for the info on the book. I'll check it out.

68 posted on 12/19/2007 2:49:39 PM PST by kabar
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To: april15Bendovr

I didnt know if this guy on the bottom of the page at this link was the same guy?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/honor/sfeature/sf_forum_participants.html

The photo at this link looks the same. I believe they’re the same person?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4491193.stm


69 posted on 12/19/2007 2:54:07 PM PST by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: Mogollon
Rush actually states he is right 98% of the time.

ACTUALLY Rush actually states he is "almost always right 98% of the time, and he has pointed out that this is close to meaningless.

70 posted on 12/19/2007 5:29:31 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: LS

That sounds about right.

One of the more interesting quotes was at the end of the war between 2 military commanders, where the US military guy claimed to have won all of the battles and the vietnamese general said, “Yes, but that’s irrelevant.”

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts


71 posted on 12/19/2007 10:03:57 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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Vietnam’s hero still grateful to anti-war Americans
http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/index.html?siteSect=143&sid=4905841
http://tinyurl.com/296ul9
By Christina Toh-Pantin
April 30, 2004

excerpts:

[HANOI (Reuters) - Twenty-nine years after the end of the Vietnam war, communist military mastermind General Vo Nguyen Giap remains grateful to the Americans who opposed it.]

[”I would like to thank them,” the 93-year-old veteran said on Friday of those Americans who opposed the war.]

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72 posted on 12/22/2007 10:34:41 AM PST by bg9
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To: ichabod1

I don’t know of others were or not but I do know I transited SFO in 1967 and 1969 in uniform and was never spit on or accosted in any way.


73 posted on 04/10/2014 4:37:01 PM PDT by pacific_waters
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