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Legisators Ignore Constituents: Bill Guts Building Fence at Border
CNS News ^ | 12/19/07 | Quiet Boston Patriot

Posted on 12/19/2007 9:41:45 AM PST by Quiet Boston Patriot

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To: Quiet Boston Patriot
I see this is your first post....your first thread....your first day.
Interesting......you just jumped right in.
21 posted on 12/19/2007 11:03:28 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: bert

I was watching a program last week on California prisons. Did you know that most of them are surrounded by deadly electric fences? I didn’t. Guess what? No more prison breaks. One touch and they are dead.
We can fence in our prisoners but not keep illegals out? It is all BS. They don’t want to keep them out or they would.


22 posted on 12/19/2007 11:08:35 AM PST by sheana
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To: Quiet Boston Patriot; Tennessee Nana; stephenjohnbanker; Diogenesis

House Dems voted overwhelmingly FOR this amendment, Republicans (including my rep) overwhelmingly AGAINST. Here is one little snippet that will make you sick. Note “That of the amount provided under this heading,
18 $650,000,000 shall not be obligated until.....”

1 DIVISION E-DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
2 SECURITY APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 2008
3 TITLE I
4 DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
5 DEPARTMENTAL MANAGEMENT AND
6 OPERATIONS
7 OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY AND EXECUTIVE
8 MANAGEMENT

.......

(Page 12)

9 BORDER SECURITY FENCING, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND
10 TECHNOLOGY
11 For expenses for customs and border protection fenc-
12 ing, infrastructure, and technology, $1,225,000,000, to re13
main available until expended: Provided, That of the
14 amount provided under this heading, $1,053,000,000 is
15 designated as described in section 5 (in the matter pre
16
ceding division A of this consolidated Act): Provided fur
17
{her, That of the amount provided under this heading,
18 $650,000,000 shall not be obligated until the Committees
19 on Appropriations of the Senate and the House of Rep20
resentatives receive and approve a plan for expenditure,
21 prepared by the Secretary of Homeland Security and sub22
mitted within 90 days after the date of enactment of this
23 Act, for a program to establish a security barrier along .
24 the borders of the United States of fencing and vehicle
. 25 barriers, where practicable, and other forms of tactical in26
frastructure and technology, that includes:

U:\2008REPT\2008CONF\OMNI\DIVE.OOO SEN. APPROP.
13
1 (1) a detailed accounting of the program’s
2 progress to date relative to system capabilities or
3 services, system performance levels, mission benefits
4 and outcomes, milestones, cost targets, program
5 management capabilities, identification of the max;.
6 imum investment (including lifecycle costs) required
7 by the Secure Border Initiative network or any suc-
8 cessor contract, and description of the methodology
9 used to obtain these cost figures;
10 (2) a description of how activities will further
11 the objectives of the Secure Border Initiative, as de-
12 fined in the Secure Border Initiative multi-year stra-
13 tegic plan, and how the plan allocates funding to the
14 highest priority border security needs;
15 (3) an explicit plan of action defining how all
16 funds are to be obligated to meet future program
17 commitments, with the planned expenditure of funds
18 linked to the milestone-based delivery of specific ca-
19 pabilities, services, performance levels,mission bene-
20 fits and outcomes, and program management capa-
21 bilities;
22 . (4) an identification of staffing (including full-
23 time equivalents, contractors, and detailees) require-
24 ments by activity;

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14
1 (5) a description of how the plan addresses se-
2 curity needs at the Northern Border and the ports
3 of entry, including infrastructure, technology, design
4 and operations requirements;
5 (6) a report on costs incurred, the activities
6 completed, and the progress made by· the program in
7 terms of obtaining operational control of the entire
8 . border of the United States;
9 (7) a listing of all open Government Account-
10 ability Office and Office of Inspector General rec-
11 ommendations related to the program and the status
12 of Department of Homeland Security actions to ad-
13 dress the recommendations, including milestones to .
14 fully address them;
15 (8) a certification by the Chief Procurement Of-
16 ficer of the Department that the program has been
17 reviewed and approved in accordance with the in-
18 vestment management process of the Department,
19 and that the process fulfills all capital planning and
20 investment control requirements and reviews estab-
21 lished by the Office of Management and Budget, in-
22 cluding Circular A-II, part 7;
23 (9) a certification by the Chief Information Of-
24 ficer of the Department that the system architecture
25 of the program is sufficiently aligned with the infor

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15
1 mation systems enterprise architecture of the De-
2 partment to minimize future rework, including a de-
3 scription of all aspects of the architectures that were
4 and were not assessed in making the alignment de-
5 termination, the date of the alignment determina-
6 tion, and any known areas of misalignment along
7 with the associated risks and corrective actions to
8 address any such areas;
9 (10) a certification by the Chief Procurement
10 Officer of the Department that the plans for the
11 program comply with the Federal acquisition rules,
12 requirements, guidelines, and practices, and a de-
13 scription of the actions being taken to address areas
14 of non-compliance, the risks associated with them
15 along with any plans for addressing these risks, and
16 the status of their implementation;
17 (11) a certification by the Chief Information
18 Officer of the Department that the program has a
19 risk management process that regularly and
20 proactively identifies, evaluates, mitigates, and mon-
21 itors risks throughout the system life cycle and com-
22 municates high-risk conditions to U.S. Customs and
23 Border Protection and Department of Homeland Se-
24 curity investment decisionmakers, as well as a listing

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16
1 of all the program’s high risks and the status of ef-
2 forts to address them;
3 (12) a certification by the Chief Human Capital .
4 Officer of the Department that the human capital
5 needs of the program are being strategically and
6 proactively managed, and that current human cap-
7 ital capabilities are sufficient to execute the plans
8 discussed in the report;
9 (13) an analysis by the Secretary for each seg-
10 ment, defined as no more than 15 miles, of fencing
11 or tactical infrastructure, of the selected approach
12 compared to other, alternative means of achieving
13 operational control; such analysis should include
14 cost, level of operational control, possible unintended
15 effects on communities, and other factors critical to
16 the decision-making process;
17 (14) a certification by the Chief Procurement
18 Officer of the Department of Homeland Security
19 that procedures to prevent conflicts of interest be-
20 tween the prime integrator and major subcontractors
21 are established and that the Secure Border Initiative
22 Program Office has adequate staff and resources to
23 effectively manage the Secure· Border Initiative pro-
24 gram, Secure Border Initiative network contract,
25 and any related contracts, including the exercise of
U:\2008REPT\2008CONF\OMNI\DIVE.OOO SEN. APPROP.
17
1 technical oversight, and a certification by the Chief
2 Information Officer of the Department of Homeland
3 Security that an independent verification and valida-
4 tion agent is currently under contract for the
5 projects funded under this heading; and
6 (15) is reviewed by the .Government Account-
7 ability Office:
8 Provided further, That the Secretary shall report to the
9 Committees on Appropriations of the Senate and the
10 House of Representatives on program progress to date and
11 specific objectives to be achieved through the award of clir12
rent and remaining task orders planned for the balance
13 of available appropriations: (1) at least 30 days prior to
14 the award of any task order requiring an obligation of
15 funds in excess of $100,000,000; and (2) prior to the
16 award of a task order that would cause cumulative obliga17
tions of funds to exceed 50 percent of the total amount
18 appropriated: Provided further, That of the funds provided
19 under this heading, not more than $2,000,000 shall be
20 used to reimburse the Defense Acquisition University for
21 .the costs of conducting a review of the Secure Border lni22
tiative network contract and determining how and whether
23 the Department is employing the best procurement prac24
tices: Provided further, That none of the funds under this
25 heading may be obligated for any project or activity for
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1 which the Secretary has exercised waiver authority pursu2
ant to section 102(c) of the Illegal Immigration Reform
3 and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1103
4 note) until 15 days have elapsed from the date of the pub5
lication of the decision in the Federal Register.


23 posted on 12/19/2007 11:55:41 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: Quiet Boston Patriot

“Our electees are ignoring our wishes, scuttling funding for the border-fence that the overwhelming percentage of Americans want. We need a grassroots, across-party-lines movement to get the fence built ; we did it, effectively, for Dubai”

Not all of them. Duncan Hunter will fight this and he’s the man who warned us about Dubai.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941377/posts

HUNTER FIGHTING TO OVERTURN HOUSE DEMOCRATS FENCE REDUCTION


24 posted on 12/19/2007 2:03:20 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Quiet Boston Patriot

The Saudis built a fence on their border last year to keep out the troublemakers in Iraq. Geez even the SAUDIS understand this! Our Congress is truly braindead.


25 posted on 12/19/2007 3:33:24 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: AuntB
Regarding the fence bill...

They're just rolling over us...the Dems AND the President....

..that fence won't get built-(Chertoff's in charge, and we know what he wants ), because they STILL want all these illegals here to vote in the election....to vote in the Beast.

And maybe there's not a darn thing we can do about it.

26 posted on 12/19/2007 3:38:22 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: AuntB
Please disregard post #26....It was just a temporary blip, and it's over :)

I'm pressing on toward the goal, just like Duncan Hunter!

27 posted on 12/19/2007 6:40:46 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: cripplecreek

You don’t have enough support to instigate a recall.


28 posted on 12/19/2007 10:58:58 PM PST by End Times Crusader (!!!!!!!!!ELECT RON PAUL AS PRESIDENT OR THE WORLD WILL END!!!!!!!!!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I know that the Reps are as guilty as the Dems, and I would say that they are even more traitorous and treacherous than the idiotic left. And it’s why a bipartisan grassroots movement needs to get into the fray. These guys that we voted in are actually telling us to take a hike. That’s fair.


29 posted on 12/20/2007 7:49:12 AM PST by Quiet Boston Patriot
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To: Guenevere

Yup. I’m furious.


30 posted on 12/20/2007 7:49:15 AM PST by Quiet Boston Patriot
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

If those in the peanut gallery read this thing, they’ll get sick. America’s finest did a number on us.


31 posted on 12/20/2007 7:49:19 AM PST by Quiet Boston Patriot
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To: AuntB

Well, he’s got to be backed up. Duncan Hunter has a petition at this link: http://www.gohunter08.com/petition/, but I imagine that it’s too late....?


32 posted on 12/20/2007 7:49:22 AM PST by Quiet Boston Patriot
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To: Quiet Boston Patriot

Cluster bombs would be more effective and less expensive than a fence.


33 posted on 12/20/2007 7:53:26 AM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools these mortals be!")
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To: Quiet Boston Patriot; gubamyster

Before we get into a practice panic and bend ourselves all into a knot over the lying POS’s in Washington, didn’t the Senate just pass a border fence funding bill to the tune of $1 billion?

If so, I would think removing it from THIS bill was a smart move as the overweight pork in this one may kill it entirely.


34 posted on 12/20/2007 8:01:41 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Quiet Boston Patriot

I wouldn’t mind seeing every Congressman and Senator dumped early next year, if there were a way to accomplish it.


35 posted on 12/20/2007 9:45:31 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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