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To: Democrat_media
These new light bulbs have mercury in them so if one breaks good luck in cleaning that up and not poisoning your family (government planning at work).

Another over hyped media statement. The mercury content of lamps is becoming less and less. The new lamps have far less Mercury than the old style lamps. Even the new T8 lamps are smaller and more efficient than the old T12 lamps.

I am from Michigan the car capital of the world (was anyway). I know what higher gas mileage will do the car industry. It will make them better and not worse. I once had a 1967 Ford Galaxy 500 with a 275 HP V8 engine. It got 18 mph. My new Escape only get 18 mph and is a dinky 3.0 V6. Where is the improvement? My 500 weighed over 4400 pounds and was a boat compared to my Escape. If you don't force Detroit to make they better. They never will.

56 posted on 12/19/2007 4:29:57 PM PST by tryon1ja
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To: tryon1ja

“if you don’t force Detroit to make they better. They never will.”

You really trust government planners more than the free market don’t you?

Well I can see at least one little potential problem with more of these new government laws and regulations. I notice that a lot of entrepeneurs, and companies of all sizes use these full size pick ups and vans in their businesses either to haul trailers, men, merchandise, and equipment in them. These new mileage requirements will basically ban all these vans and full size pickups ( like the Ram 3500, Ford F350, F250 ,f150 etc). That would destroy our economy.

Plus if liberals and your government planners would have allowed companies to drill for oil , mine for coal, or build refineries or coal to gasoline plants then we wouldn’t have any “energy crises”. this energy crises was created by government. coal to gasoline liquefaction alone could solve all our energy needs as the U.S. has 600 years of coal. but liberals say that coal causes global warming and with the 20 years of red tape and laws suits that it takes to build a plant that is why we have an energy crises.

It’s government that’s the problem . the 3 trillion that government takes away from the private sector per year could have been used in a free market to create many coal power plants and coal to gasoline plants which would solve our energy needs . government is the problem but many like you who were educated in the government schools want more government.

It’s all those laws that are written already that make a company have to fight through a maze of lawsuits and apply to the government for 20 years to build a plant. now you want to add more regulations to the automobile industry.

like others have said here , freedom and capitalism have worked if allowed to remain free but with so many regulations capitalism can become crippled and government planning has never worked.

Also global warming is hoax. So there is no need for any mileage standards. if you remove all these laws, reduce the federal budget, and reduce the size of government then the private companies will have the freedom, latitude, incentive and capital to create much more energy which will solve the energy crises.


67 posted on 12/19/2007 5:10:42 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are communists/Socialists.Socialism is an economic disaster.)
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To: tryon1ja

In our economy many businesses of all sizes use these trucks like the Ford F-150, F250,F350, Dodge Ram 3500. And they don’t get the kind of mileage you and the government wants to mandate and has mandated. So our economy is going to get destroyed because people can’t use these trucks anymore as they do much of the work in the economy to haul trailers, equipment ,merchandise , men etc.

We don’t need the government for anything except the military,courts and police.

The free market takes care of any problem. For example as gasoline starts to get more costly then more people will naturally buy cars that get higher mileage like the smaller cars so there is no need for government to mandate higher mileage because people will naturally want to save money and buy the smaller cars that get higher mileage.


69 posted on 12/19/2007 5:24:47 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are communists/Socialists.Socialism is an economic disaster.)
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To: tryon1ja

” I once had a 1967 Ford Galaxy 500 with a 275 HP V8 engine. It got 18 mph. My new Escape only get 18 mph and is a dinky 3.0 V6. Where is the improvement? My 500 weighed over 4400 pounds and was a boat compared to my Escape. If you don’t force Detroit to make they better. They never will.”

You clearly haven’t realized it, but this example proves the ineffectiveness of the Government meddling in the automotive industry. Look at all the requirements placed upon auto manufacturers regarding emissions, gasoline, etc. between ‘67 and your new Escape.

It’s the same reason my 289 HiPo cranks out over 300 HP with a comparatively simple to maintain carbuerated engine, but to get 300 HP now, you have to be an engineer to maintain the car yourself, or pay out the nose to have it done for you.


81 posted on 12/20/2007 8:25:48 AM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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