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An Odd Couple: Kissinger and McCain
NY Times Politics Blog ^ | 12/19/07 | Marc Santora

Posted on 12/20/2007 12:10:31 AM PST by Norman Bates

BOSTON — The setting of Senator John McCain’s event here was replete with imagery meant to play into his strengths.

On the top floor of the historic Faneuil Hall, Mr. McCain and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger sat surrounded by the flags from the American Revolution, the weapons of many generations of war and the photos of the leaders of the Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company.

Directing the conversation was the former head of the Central Intelligence Agency, R. James Woolsey.

Without talking about Mr. McCain’s rivals, the statement was clear enough: he was showcasing his lifetime of experience dealing with national security challenges and foreign affairs.

“He has, sometimes to the short-term disadvantage, asked only one question: what is best for America and what is best for freedom in the world?” Dr. Kissinger said.

“This is why I am doing something I have not done before,” he continued. “This is why I think John McCain will be the best time to lead America through the turbulent, but also hopeful, period that is ahead of us.”

But it was also a highly unusual event.

While Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee continue to beat each other up over a single line in a Foreign Affairs article written by Mr. Huckabee that accused President Bush of having a “bunker mentality,” the conversation at Mr. McCain’s event ranged from the Westphalia Treaty three centuries ago to the current rise of India and China.

Mr. McCain speaks frequently of his admiration for Dr. Kissinger, whom he acknowledges is a “controversial figure” in some circles.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2008; kissinger; mccain

1 posted on 12/20/2007 12:10:33 AM PST by Norman Bates
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To: TitansAFC; meandog; therut; Laissez-faire capitalist; MARTIAL MONK; napscoordinator; sportutegrl; ..
The McCain List.
Common sense conservatism

“This is a problem that will be with us for the rest of this administration and the beginning of the next administration,” [Kissinger] said. “And we can not let it drift into a world of multiple nuclear powers.”

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With that backdrop, Mr. Kissinger said he decided to do what he has never done before, and play an active part in a political primary, in this case joining three other former Secretaries’ of State in supporting Senator McCain.

2 posted on 12/20/2007 12:14:15 AM PST by Norman Bates
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To: Norman Bates

It’s probably good that I didn’t see this until today. Last night I was asked to participate in a phone bank, calling Iowa voters promoting McCain, I ignored the request, had I seen this my response would not have been polite.


3 posted on 12/20/2007 12:23:07 AM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Norman Bates
While I respect McCain's service and feel badly that he was a POW for so long, that background does not give him carte blanc to ascend to the presidency.

Personally, I don't believe that a POW is entitled to anything, other than military compensation and our compassion. A POW is a military service-member being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Us, who have signed up for that or were drafted, knew the risks. There are probably hundreds if not thousands, who by the grace of god, avoided capture and did heroic deeds throughout our wars. It doesn't matter if they are in an aircraft that gets shot down or a grunt in the jungles or deserts. Wrong place and the wrong time does not give you an open door to Oval Office.

4 posted on 12/20/2007 2:12:57 AM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: A Navy Vet
My husband was a VQ-2 plank owner and escaped capture more than once. He would have agreed with you.
5 posted on 12/20/2007 4:34:03 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Norman Bates

Mr. Detente with the commies-Henry A. Kissinger.

Another fake Nobel Peace Prize winner-with Le Duc Tho of Sen. McCain’s former captors.

The peace deal that didn’t end the war in Vietnam. A deal broken as all are by communists.

Should I believe Senator McCain must be running with the blessing of the Council on Foreign Relations?

One more reason to just say no to John McCain.


6 posted on 12/20/2007 4:41:54 AM PST by Nextrush (Uncommitted for GOP President, but not Ron Paul or John McCain.)
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To: Norman Bates
Mr. McCain speaks frequently of his admiration for Dr. Kissinger, whom he acknowledges is a “controversial figure” in some circles.

So where is the common sense, there sure is NO conservatism?

7 posted on 12/20/2007 4:42:48 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Norman Bates
This surprises me none at all. Both are liberals that hurt and subverted the Republican party and particularly the conservative cause. McVain and Ru Paul are the two GOP candidates I will not vote for under any circumstances.
8 posted on 12/20/2007 4:45:51 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: A Navy Vet

I agree with you - but would also point out that Sen. McCain isn’t running against himself. When you stack up his military experience - and let’s be realistic, a POW is an “elite” force regardless of circumstance - against those on the other side of the aisle, his opponents come up wanting.

With all that said, it may be that the so-called military vote, veterans vote et. al is no longer a factor demographically.


9 posted on 12/20/2007 4:50:10 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: A Navy Vet

“Wrong place and the wrong time does not give you an open door to Oval Office.”

Neither do I. Look at Duke Cunningham’s fall from grace.

Do you believe McCain’s entire time in elected office has been a complete failure?


10 posted on 12/20/2007 6:17:25 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Coldwater Creek
"My husband was a VQ-2 plank owner and escaped capture more than once. He would have agreed with you."

Thank you for understanding. We all sign up for the same risks. It's unfortunate that some realize the threat of those risks more than others, but that's the nature of the "contract" we sign. Those who were drafted - is another story.

11 posted on 12/23/2007 10:39:36 PM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: Freedom4US
"a POW is an “elite” force regardless of circumstance - against those on the other side of the aisle, his opponents come up wanting."

A combat veteran has my most respect. However, a POW does not mean they are part of an "elite force". While they have faced the horror of war, and show its scars, they are not the "elite".

Again, it's a matter of being at the wrong place at the wrong time. In Iraq and Afganistan, our soldiers die and are maimed every day who are not attached to "elite" units. That doesn't make their lose any less important.

Guess my point is the word "elite" has become muddled in this current age of warfare. I, personally, reserved it for the highest training. However, if the supposedly lowest clerk in the Army is blown up in the line of duty, than yes, he is a hero - but not the "elite". Just get your terms right.

12 posted on 12/23/2007 10:52:11 PM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum (An Oath is Forever))
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To: A Navy Vet

Yeah, poor choice of words on my part?

What I meant to say, and not very well - it has long been a component of presidential races for the candidate to have military service. There are exceptions of course but we have certainly seen this played out in the last few cycles.

It just seems to me that Sen. McCain knows military issues, veterans’ concerns, without question.


13 posted on 12/24/2007 3:16:15 AM PST by Freedom4US
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