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Neo-Nazi complains about Ron Paul's denial of ties to white supremacists
American Thinker ^ | December 20, 2007 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 12/20/2007 8:13:19 AM PST by .cnI redruM

American Thinker has extensively covered the troubling links between Ron Paul's campaign and neo-Nazis. For our trouble we were blasted by some critics, and subjected to a torrent of abusive letters from Ron Paul supporters.

But now, an apparently genuine Neo-Nazi, Bill White, Commander of the American National Socialist Workers Party is fed up with the campaign's mild distancing and disavowal, and claims on a neo-Nazi website, the Vanguard News Network, that he has attended meetings with Paul at both a Thai restaurant in Arlington, and in his official office.

Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs has picked-up the story from the Lone Star Times and further assembled links to corroborating evidence, and offers a redirect link to the website on which White writes:

Comrades:

I have kept quiet about the Ron Paul campaign for a while, because I didn't see any need to say anything that would cause any trouble. However, reading the latest release from his campaign spokesman, I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul's extensive involvement in white nationalism.

Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the Stormfront set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays. This is part of a dinner that was originally organized by Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and has since been mostly taken over by the Council of Conservative Citizens.

I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy.

For his spokesman to call white racialism a "small ideology" and claim white activists are "wasting their money" trying to influence Paul is ridiculous. Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.

I don't know that it is necessarily good for Paul to "expose" this. However, he really is someone with extensive ties to white nationalism and for him to deny that in the belief he will be more respectable by denying it is outrageous - and I hate seeing people in the press who denounce racialism merely because they think it is not fashionable.

Bill White, Commander American National Socialist Workers Party

I suppose there a slight chance this is all an elaborate hoax, but it doesn't look that way. If Paul believes White is lying, he should sue. And testify under oath.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arlingtonva; nazis; neonazi; paulqaeda; ronpaul; stormfront
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1 posted on 12/20/2007 8:13:22 AM PST by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM
Bill White, Commander American National Socialist Workers Party

Everyone has been brainwashed over time to think that Naziism is a right wing ideology - it's not.

The Nazis are National Socialists.

2 posted on 12/20/2007 8:17:48 AM PST by Wil H
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To: .cnI redruM

Brace yourselves, the Paul Qaeda are coming...


3 posted on 12/20/2007 8:18:35 AM PST by counterpunch (Get Up And Go Fred Go Already!)
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To: .cnI redruM

The politics of personal destruction continue.

Anything to prevent real change and keep the corruption going.

If you looked at the donations made to any candidate, I’m positive you’d find some unscrupulous donaters. Does that mean they’re in cahoots?


4 posted on 12/20/2007 8:21:12 AM PST by Frances_Marion
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To: Frances_Marion

Lighten up Frances


5 posted on 12/20/2007 8:23:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Frances_Marion
I don’t know. But if McCain, Huckabee or Romney took money from a neo-nazi, or spoke to a neo-nazi meeting, they’d have plenty of ‘splainin’ to do.
6 posted on 12/20/2007 8:25:34 AM PST by .cnI redruM (New Republic? Same old Left.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.

No Ron Paul fan here, but I find this very difficult to believe. In today's media world this would have come out a long time ago.
7 posted on 12/20/2007 8:26:27 AM PST by Borges
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To: .cnI redruM
While I doubt that Ron Paul is committed to White's ideology, it is clear that Joe Sobran and Jared Taylor are and the late Sam Francis was.

What is obvious is that Paul has cultivated relationships with individuals in this movement over the years and has built up their hopes that he would openly sympathize with them.

Ron Paul has done the same thing with the 9/11 Truthers - he has appeared on Alex Jones' show several times and made some very ambiguous statements about 9/11 and its background that has built up the hopes of Truthers that he would openly sympathize with them.

Paul knows that members of the weird fringes of US society have as much disposable income as the average normal American, and he fills a vacuum for them.

Ron Paul is the candidate of almost every nutbar organization in the US - from anarchists to neo-Nazis to goldbugs to tax protestors to pacifists - because he dabbles in the rhetoric of each of these groups without ever making an explicit commitment to the cause.

That is a very damning indicator of his character.

8 posted on 12/20/2007 8:26:50 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Borges

It does come out, in most everything he says. You don’t have to read too deep between the lines to see it.


9 posted on 12/20/2007 8:27:54 AM PST by counterpunch (Get Up And Go Fred Go Already!)
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To: wideawake

I agree that Paul is no white supremacist but it appears that he isn’t immune to the corrupting influence of power. He’s figured out that no comment is too far over the line that his followers won’t repeat it without thought.


10 posted on 12/20/2007 8:30:51 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Borges
This is Bill White projecting his intransigent views on Paul.

Joe Sobran and Jared Taylor operate on the "respectable" level of such organizations - they are very carefully never to explictly couch things in terms of race. They also move in circles with which Paul is comfortable.

Sobran's newsletter and Taylor's American Renaissance periodical are always very carefully worded and professionally written to preserve that veneer, while White's organization is unapologetically militant.

It's a very multilayered little world.

11 posted on 12/20/2007 8:31:26 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Borges
It is really strange how the most ardent deniers of the continual articles coming out from reputable organizations and different writers always post something like “not a fan of Ron Paul”, “I do not like Paul but”, etc. I think those that claim that do support him and are trying to quell anyone believing the continual ties being reported.
12 posted on 12/20/2007 8:32:00 AM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: Wil H

Everyone has been brainwashed over time to think that Naziism is a right wing ideology - it’s not.

The Nazis are National Socialists.


at least in europe nazis are extreme right wingers. (this does not mean that every right wing party is viewed as nazi party). maybe it´s different in the US i don´t know. but if you would tell a european that a (left wing party is nazi because NSDAP contains the word socialist he/she would probably laughing his arse off.


13 posted on 12/20/2007 8:32:00 AM PST by austrian
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To: .cnI redruM

The answer is: both.


14 posted on 12/20/2007 8:32:58 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: jrooney; Borges

As a known harsh critic of Paul on FR, I can independently vouch for Borges that he actually is not a fan of Ron Paul.


15 posted on 12/20/2007 8:34:54 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
>>>>>>That is a very damning indicator of his character.

No, it's not. What is a damning indicator of a lack of character is engaging in guilt by association, claiming that meeting with a person or talking with a person means agreement on all issues, and then demanding rituaulized apology and self-abasement from anyone found to have deviated from political correctness.

American public discourse used to be free and robust. Now, it is cowardly and conformist.

16 posted on 12/20/2007 8:36:01 AM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: wideawake; Borges

Okay wideawake, I trust your opinion.


17 posted on 12/20/2007 8:36:37 AM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: wideawake; jrooney

Thanks for rising to my defense. I am indeed not a fan. Well I like some of his early work but he lost me when he sold out his punk roots and released that dance pop album.


18 posted on 12/20/2007 8:37:36 AM PST by Borges
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To: austrian
at least in europe nazis are extreme right wingers

The European definition of "right wing" is different from the American definition.

Most people who are considered "right wing" in Europe are either considered a mixture of left wing and crazy by Americans.

All socialism - National or otherwise - is necessarily left wing to Americans, because advocacy of the free market is a non-negotiable aspect of the American right.

19 posted on 12/20/2007 8:39:22 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: austrian

Trust and empower the govermnent to protect you from poverty and/or desease vs trust empower the government to protect you from military enemies. The end result is the same, an empowered government and a powerless people.


20 posted on 12/20/2007 8:39:36 AM PST by DungeonMaster (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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