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Huckabee ... The GOP's Cynical Use of Religion Has Come Home to Roost
History News Network ^ | 12-18-07 | Arianna Huffington

Posted on 12/20/2007 9:28:38 AM PST by Between the Lines

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To: Between the Lines

should be edited to include a barf alert... Miss Huffy does not have a clue.

jw


61 posted on 12/20/2007 10:39:38 AM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: for-q-clinton
Ministers that aspire to be President probably shouldn’t be trusted.

Many of the original thirteen states excluded ministers from holding public office. I would tend to agree with them.

62 posted on 12/20/2007 10:54:12 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: JWinNC

Hey, being known as a Christian and/or a preacher and/or an evangelical is liability now days.... so for Huckabee to stick out his neck and bring it to the for front indicates he is a man of principal and integrity. For him to take this great risk... that to me says a lot about the man.


63 posted on 12/20/2007 10:59:13 AM PST by MalachiFourSix
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To: crz; All

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In today’s competitive global economy, a fair, simple, and pro-growth tax system is essential for America’s success. America must be the best place in the world to invest and create high-paying jobs.

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The economic proposals offered by Democrats will move us in the wrong direction — their plan for higher taxes, in particular, will reduce America’s competitiveness, push investment and jobs overseas, and send more of workers’ and families’ income to Washington. The conservative approach is to reduce government spending and return more money to America’s families.

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Reduced individual income tax rates, saving every tax-paying family a minimum of $600.
Preserving the $1000 child tax credit, which was doubled from $500 per child.
Protecting Marriage penalty relief.
Retaining Education tax incentives, including Coverdell Education Savings Accounts, 529 college savingsplans, and deductions for higher education expenses.
Reduced tax rates on capital gains and qualified dividends.
Increased expensing of investment for small businesses.

Permanently Repeal the Death Tax. Current law provides death tax relief, but only through 2010. The death tax is inherently unfair. Under the Thompson Plan, the death tax would be permanently repealed, thus protecting millions of American families, including small business owners and family farmers, from double taxation at rates ranging as high as 55 percent.

Repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax. The AMT is a separate tax system that was intended to ensure that a few high income Americans could not use deductions and credits to eliminate their tax liability. However, because the AMT is not indexed to inflation, it is penalizing Americans it was never intended to affect. While in the U.S. Senate, Fred Thompson authored legislation that would have repealed the AMT. Consistent with that earlier proposal, the Thompson plan will eliminate the AMT as part of broader tax and spending reform. Until comprehensive reform is feasible, the Thompson plan would index the exemption amounts annually so that millions of middle class families will not become subject to this tax.

Reduce the Corporate Tax Rate. The United States has one of the highest rates of tax on businesses of the industrialized nations, second only to Japan. EvenJapan is currently considering reducing its corporate tax rate. Economic studies suggest that the U.S. Treasury is actually losing tax revenue by keeping the corporate tax rate so high. In order to increase the competitiveness of U.S. companies in the global marketplace, the Thompson plan would reduce the U.S. top corporate tax rate (including the corporate capital gains tax rate) from 35 percent to no more than 27 percent, which is the approximate average of the world’s leading economies—the nations of the Organization on Economic Cooperation and Development. This tax reduction will promote U.S. competitiveness, encourage companies to keep their operations (and jobs) in the U.S., and spur continued economic expansion and growth.

Permanently Extend Small Business Expensing. Small businesses create two-thirds of all new jobs in America, and employ nearly 59 million Americans — more than half of the nation’s private-sector workforce. Women own a quarter of all small businesses, minorities are nearing the 20% mark, and Hispanic Americans are opening their own businesses at a rate three times the national average. Current law allows small businesses to write-off purchases of equipment of up to $125,000 per year, rather than depreciating those assets over time. Making expensing of equipment and other small business items permanent will encourage greater investment and growth.

Update and Simplify Depreciation Schedules. The current depreciation schedules are outdated and in many cases do not reflect the realistic useful life of an asset. This is particularly true for investments in high technology. For example, computers must be depreciated over three years, even though they become obsolete in half that time. The Thompson plan would simplify and update these schedules to allow American businesses to make the investments they need to compete and create more high-quality jobs.

Expand Taxpayer Choice. The Thompson plan would give Americans greater choice about how to pay their federal taxes. This plan is based on a proposal developed by the House of Representatives Republican Study Committee that would provide taxpayers the option of remaining under the current, complex tax code or opting for a simplified, flat tax code. The simplified tax code would contain two tax rates: 10% for joint filers on income of up to $100,000 ($50,000 for singles) and 25% on income above these amounts. The standard deduction would be more than doubled to $25,000 for joint filers and $12,500 for singles. The personal exemption amount would be increased to $3,500. Therefore, a family of 4 would be exempt from income tax on the first $39,000 of income. The simplified tax code would contain no other tax credits or deductions. It would also retain the 15% tax rate on capital gains and dividends. This approach would dramatically simplify taxes for tens of millions of Americans. In addition, the larger standard deduction and personal exemption amounts will still provide significant tax relief to families with children. This proposal would serve as a stepping-stone to fundamental tax reform.

America ‘s economic future depends on our nation’s ability to maintain its competitive and innovative spirit. Solutions to challenges in our economy are found in the homes and small businesses of ordinary Americans, not in the halls of Washington. Fred Thompson’s goal is to allow Americans to retain greater control of their own money.

To do that, Fred Thompson believes we need a more limited, more effective federal government. Currently, government spending is projected to grow at nearly twice the rate of inflation over the next several years. This spending path is unsustainable and will hamper our economy unless fiscal discipline is imposed. It is critical that we address the problem of government spending, especially for entitlement programs, if the U.S. economy is grow and thrive in the coming decades.

The Thompson Plan for Tax Relief and Economic Growth provides commonsense solutions to increase American competitiveness in the 21st century. These solutions will allow Americans to keep more of their money and encourage companies and entrepreneurs to invest and create jobs in the United States. Enhancing the choices of taxpayers, permanently reducing taxes, encouraging investment in America’s corporations and small businesses, and restraining government spending are all steps in the right direction. America’s economy has endured several challenges over the last several years — it is time to move forward and enter a new era of economic security and prosperity.


64 posted on 12/20/2007 10:59:17 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Between the Lines
The posted article enlarged my vocabulary by 5 new words:

Huckacide

Huckaplomacy

Huckabhorrence

Huckenfreude

money-cons

65 posted on 12/20/2007 11:09:07 AM PST by MurryMom
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To: MalachiFourSix

Sorry, I don’t follow your logic.

jw


66 posted on 12/20/2007 11:18:22 AM PST by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: MurryMom
Heaven forbid that he ever become President. If he does we will need a Hucktionary.
67 posted on 12/20/2007 11:18:28 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: TFMcGuire
'Gee and all this time I though being an evangelical Christian was believing, trusting in the saving, atoning work of Jesus Christ, His divinity, Apostle's Creed sort stuff....now to find out that it is really a matter of your tax policy, the death penalty and such ... I am surprised....now just what are the 'Biblical references for this new doctrine

By the by..He does have a degree in theology....

68 posted on 12/20/2007 11:18:49 AM PST by reflecting
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To: goldstategop
so very true..... but despite all the heat George Bush is taking from the right he did in fact place conservatives on the SCOTUS. So who is really the friend to the evangelicals?
69 posted on 12/20/2007 11:21:55 AM PST by reflecting
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To: Cicero

Please tell me have you determined he was a fake?


70 posted on 12/20/2007 11:23:40 AM PST by reflecting
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To: Between the Lines
I understand what you are saying and couldn’t agree more!! The very idea of promoting Romney or Giuliani, is anti Christian. How can we, as Christians, support either of them. Enter Huckabee, and ditto for him!
71 posted on 12/20/2007 11:25:38 AM PST by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: Between the Lines
Whew finally some one who gets it right....but your message won’t fit in a five word sentence...
72 posted on 12/20/2007 11:27:07 AM PST by reflecting
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To: reflecting
but despite all the heat George Bush is taking from the right he did in fact place conservatives on the SCOTUS. So who is really the friend to the evangelicals?

Perhaps you have forgotten about Harriet Miers. Had evangelicals not thrown a screaming fit, she would be a justice and not Alito.

73 posted on 12/20/2007 11:55:00 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: reflecting
Please tell me have you determined he was a fake?

Huckabee constantly lies about things he did as governor, and while he was governor he was involved in all sorts of sleezy activities, bribes, money laundering, etc.

Whether his religion is really fake is known only to him and to God. But his whole behavior strikes me as fake.

Others may differ, as in fact I said they did. But I'm not sure how he can be a good Christian when he constantly uses sermon language to lie about matters we know simply aren't true.

In contrast, Pat Robertson may occasionally be mistaken or go off the deep end, as he did when he endorsed Giuliani, but his religious sincerity seems evident enough, insofar as anyone but God can judge such matters.

74 posted on 12/20/2007 12:01:39 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: JWinNC

For Huckabee to come out and say without hiding or compromising that he is a Christian and a preacher is an impediment now days...look at the media, Hollywood, the left and the whole culture’s anti-Christian bigotry; is all over the place. So for him to come out and unabashedly speak of his Christian values is almost insane….to me it says a lot about the man’s principals and integrity for he is willing to take the heat for what he believes.


75 posted on 12/20/2007 12:03:40 PM PST by MalachiFourSix
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To: Cicero
Are you sure about all these things you are accusing him of? Or is it possible that the dissenters within the repub ranks have been putting out slanted stories because they really cannot abide the fact that real evangelical Christian married to a real evangelical Christian might be appealing....how do you know you have not been propagandized by the moneyed right?

I have listened tho Huckabee preach and talk and he sounds just like every Baptist preacher I've ever heard and I think I've some expertise in the area, I am a SBC Pastor's wife.

76 posted on 12/20/2007 12:10:11 PM PST by reflecting
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To: Between the Lines

No need to get all concerned about the huckster, he’ll flame out all on his own.


77 posted on 12/20/2007 12:12:25 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Between the Lines

True, but the difference is that Bush listened when we threw a fit.... what was Reagan’s record?


78 posted on 12/20/2007 12:12:33 PM PST by reflecting
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To: 1Old Pro

I have thought for sometime that he just might be the next president.... we shall see..


79 posted on 12/20/2007 12:15:59 PM PST by reflecting
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To: Between the Lines
Arianna is a liberal ditzy - but she's right about one thing: social conservatives are the GOP's blacks. They're fine for getting out the vote but the party establishment is embarrassed by them. They just can't stand people of faith and their agenda.

If a leftist like Arianna can see this, why can't we?

Because if they acknowledge it, THEN they would have to do something to prove otherwise or to fix it or whatever... So it's better to 'look the other way.' Just like they did with the open-border invasion for the last 20 years... They all looked the other way and pretended they saw nothing. We did NOT KNOW! :)

Again, Duncan is my candidate but I am enjoying Huckabee's surge tremendously :)

80 posted on 12/20/2007 12:21:11 PM PST by ElPatriota
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