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DAMN SOCIAL SECURITY
boblonsberry.com ^ | 12/20/07 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 12/20/2007 10:49:56 AM PST by shortstop

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To: DonnerT

I have had those exact same thoughts myself. I told my wife long ago, that I was born 150-200 years too late.


161 posted on 02/02/2008 6:05:50 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America wants socialism. It wants it all for free. It wants the government to provide all.)
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To: shortstop

With all the calculating going on here I wonder if anyone could figure out how much money is being collected from illegal aliens? I think thats why the governmet won’t do anything about illegal immigration they need to keep their ponzi scheme alive!


162 posted on 02/02/2008 7:39:58 AM PST by johnny reb
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To: kabar
Since 1983, all new federal employees must pay into SS. Others were offered the opportunity to join the system.

You trying to confuse us with facts?

163 posted on 02/02/2008 7:52:32 AM PST by Stentor
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To: donna; Bacon Man
Old people, the ones with wisdom, get moved to old folks homes where they cannot benefit their families by sharing their wisdom.

All too clearly, you have not yet met Xena's Mom. ;)
164 posted on 02/02/2008 7:56:45 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: silentreignofheroes

Friendly readability hint: only one comma is ever needed. A space after said single comma will help the rest of us immensely. :)


165 posted on 02/02/2008 7:58:36 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: TonyRo76
SS (acronym=coincidence?)

Very likely, since Social Security predated the Nazis by maybe three decades.
166 posted on 02/02/2008 8:01:24 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: shortstop

Great article. This is one subject that never gets the attention it deserves.


167 posted on 02/02/2008 8:01:47 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Go_Raiders
The vast majority of public employees pay the same amount toward their pension that would have gone into SS.

Too much reason for a topic intended to produce hysteria. Cut it out.

168 posted on 02/02/2008 8:03:47 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Cementjungle
That isn't even the worst of it.

World Bank Using U.S. [taxpayer]Funds To Boost Iranian Industry, Gas Sectors
169 posted on 02/02/2008 8:06:26 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: CDHart
"Did you [napscoordinator] forget your sarcasm tag?"

HA!!
I *don't* think so, he's serious as a heart attack.

...*scary* as hell.

170 posted on 02/02/2008 8:12:33 AM PST by Landru (Reality hits the faithful the hardest.)
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To: Xenalyte

English is my 2nd language, but I’ll try harder.


171 posted on 02/02/2008 8:16:11 AM PST by silentreignofheroes (I'm Southron,,,and I Vote..,,,,.A Saint I Ain't)
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To: Proud2BeRight

” I tried to opt out of socialist security when I started work 38 years ago. Of course I failed. A few years ago I developed a “present worth” spreadsheet of the opportunity lost because of that ponzi scheme. (I have since lost the file.) I used the actual numbers of what was stolen from me plus my employers’ contribution and a conservative S&P 500-based mutual fund growth over those years. The amount that would be available to me today was huge. Not only would the earnings be several times greater than what I will get from SS, I would be able to pass the balance to my family when I croak. Stinking socialist robbery.”

Sadly the truth as you have noted above isn’t known to the general public. They also don’t realize that you can get taxed on social security....

Nice scheme, taxed once to develop the fund, tax you again when you get what you paid in......

Fixing / eliminating this should be question #1 in all the debates........


172 posted on 02/02/2008 8:19:26 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: patriotspride
Fixing / eliminating this should be question #1 in all the debates........

And there's only one guy with the nads to bring it up.

173 posted on 02/02/2008 8:27:13 AM PST by ovrtaxt (No Rudy McRombee for me! I voted for Ron Paul. The GOP can curl up and die.)
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To: DuncanWaring
And they collect far more (probably somewhere in the range of $100B to $200B) than they spend.

That is not relevant to what I said.

Besides, the excess collections are a temporary phenomenon, unless the Social Security taxes are raised, or the benefits are cut.

175 posted on 02/02/2008 1:38:10 PM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: 3niner
That is not relevant to what I said.

Sure it is.

napscoordinator said Social Security taxes were only a small part of the tax base, you said "No they aren't, SS spends $600B a year", and I merely pointed out that the situation is even worse than what you said. ;-)

176 posted on 02/02/2008 1:48:15 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: CatDancer

well cry me a river you lazy bum.

“It’s nearly all I have, after working 35 years”

you ever heard of a savings account?

read my lips I DO NOT CARE! i have paid for twenty years and will have to pay for the next thirty. i hate everyone on SSi, i hate everyone who voted for SSi, i hate the whole system because it is screwing me. giving the chance i will kick every last one of you deadbeats to curb. it is a SCAM and it needs to be stopped.

the government has no right to take that money from me and give it to you. if you believe it does then you are on the wrong forum.


177 posted on 02/02/2008 3:34:23 PM PST by postaldave (republicans need spending rehab before trying to control congress again.)
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