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Ron Paul's Photo-Op with Stormfront (Ministry of Silly Explanations in overdrive)
LGF ^ | 12/20/07

Posted on 12/20/2007 7:19:47 PM PST by Jean S

An LGF reader emailed this photograph, showing Ron Paul at the Values Voters Presidential Debate in Fort Lauderdale on September 17, 2007. Immediately to Paul’s left: Don Black, the owner of neo-Nazi hate site Stormfront. If anyone knows who the creepy guy in the hat is, please post a comment.

Update: it’s Derek Black, Don’s son.

(Click on link for pics.)

(Excerpt) Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911truth; endorsedbydu; gayvotersforpaul; knowmebymyfriends; lgf; nazilover; nazisforpaul; ronpaul; sickocandidate; stormfront; thedailykoscandidate; youknowhesnuts
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1 posted on 12/20/2007 7:19:50 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Jean S
So, now we know that Ron Paul isn't really trying to win.

Instead, he's trying to collect as much money as possible -- from any and every conceivable source.

Wonder what he'll do with it...

2 posted on 12/20/2007 7:28:45 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Jean S

Paul addresses this quite well in an inteview yesterday with Neil Cavuto:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrRtZaG63o8

These smears are repulsive to say the least, G W Bush and Reagan were smeared with this stuff, as the eventual Republican nominee this year will be, yet some ‘conservatives’ appear willing to stoop to the level of the left to attack one of their own.


3 posted on 12/20/2007 7:29:51 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Jean S

Ron Paul is an absolute disgrace.


4 posted on 12/20/2007 7:30:17 PM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: okie01

Worse yet he’s attracting scum to conservative events like rats to a dump.


5 posted on 12/20/2007 7:31:24 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Jean S

LOL.

Paul has his picture taken with some nitwits at a debate, and now he is a racist. Got to love our free thinking society.

I am sure that night Paul and Carol invited the two over for dinner. s/

Great news for Ron Paul supporters, is that those who are undecided will see right through this sensational BS and come and support Ron Paul.

If you think I am kidding, watch as the new donor dollars goes up.


6 posted on 12/20/2007 7:31:35 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: Jean S

Much as I think Paul is on the kook fringe, I really kind of doubt he knew he was giving a photo-op to a couple of KKKer’s. You can be sure he knows it now, however.


7 posted on 12/20/2007 7:32:40 PM PST by umgud (no more subprime politicians)
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To: Alouette

Ping. I lifted this from a comment you posted earlier.


8 posted on 12/20/2007 7:32:54 PM PST by Jean S
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To: umgud
Yeah right, he was completely in the dark about who donates to his campaign.

Paul keeps donation from white supremacist: Aide: take money and 'try to spread the message'

9 posted on 12/20/2007 7:36:01 PM PST by Jean S
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To: traviskicks

Ron Paul did a great job defending himself. I have never seen Neil so lost for words.


10 posted on 12/20/2007 7:37:06 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: Jean S

At this point you could have Paul in a 3 way with Black and his son on film and the true believers would deny that Paul knows them.


11 posted on 12/20/2007 7:37:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: rineaux; Jean S

Ron Paul has had 100’s of Stormfront photo-ops. There is no way he can claim he had no idea who he was hanging out with and not appear like a total retard.

So he is either a nazi or a retard. Personally I think he is both.


12 posted on 12/20/2007 7:38:59 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette
Ron Paul has had 100’s of Stormfront photo-ops.

Then there ought to be hundreds of photos.

13 posted on 12/20/2007 7:40:32 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: okie01

Ron Paul is trying to get enough support, with help from the left via anonymous internet donations, to generate a third party challenge to the Republicans.


14 posted on 12/20/2007 7:40:33 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Alouette

***Ron Paul has had 100’s of Stormfront photo-ops.***

GIve us the link to the photos.


15 posted on 12/20/2007 7:40:49 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: rineaux
I strongly suspect this is photoshopped or the people are misidentified as being Don Black and his son. I’m not a Paul supporter, but he is being subject to smear tactics on the level of those used against Joseph McCarthy and Barry Goldwater. What is more, at least McCarthy and Goldwater were subject to dirty tricks by self-identified liberals and leftists. This time, it is pseudo-conservatives, rather than liberals, getting into the gutter.

You have to wonder why these pseudo-conservatives are getting so worked up about someone who has never gotten past the single digits in any poll.

16 posted on 12/20/2007 7:41:03 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: okie01
Wonder what he'll do with it...


17 posted on 12/20/2007 7:43:38 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: Pelham
Hate to say it, but things have gotten a little worse for Mr. Paul. It's one thing to dismiss guilt by association through funding, but this is another animal. Even if the Blacks--funny, because they're both white supremacists!--set up this photo-op with Dr. Paul, it still seems strange, nonetheless. Sure, no Hitler statues in the closet, but one has to wonder just how to balance all of this.

Again, sorry for dragging you into another RONPAUL!!! thread. It may be because I value your insight and opinion--no, no "maybe" about it. ;)
18 posted on 12/20/2007 7:44:49 PM PST by Das Outsider (Humperdinck!)
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To: jveritas; SJackson; lormand; Allegra

Ron Paul posing for a picture with stormfront founder and his son ping


19 posted on 12/20/2007 7:45:07 PM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: rineaux
I have never seen Neil so lost for words.

He almost looked ashamed that he even asked the question. And Paul is right on with his remarks about all the bundlers, and lobbyists, and big money folks with their own nonfreedom promoting agendas, all ignored in favor of the emotional, a $500 donation.
20 posted on 12/20/2007 7:46:25 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Wallace T.; All
I strongly suspect this is photoshopped or the people are misidentified as being Don Black and his son.

Is there an Adobe Photoshop expert available? Is this a genuine photograph or another fake?

I wouldn't rule out misidentification, but let's wait and see.
21 posted on 12/20/2007 7:48:21 PM PST by Das Outsider (Humperdinck!)
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To: Das Outsider

Little Green football and their posters are pretty darn good at spotting fakes. LGF exposed the fake guard docs run by Rather on CBS.


22 posted on 12/20/2007 7:50:06 PM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: tacticalogic
Then there ought to be hundreds of photos.

Yeah, there are hundreds of Ron Paul photos. Someone over at LGF discovered an unprotected file folder on the Stormfront server with 100s of Ron Paul photos. Post #191 and #226.

You are going to have to go over to the link at the top of this page, because no way am I putting a direct link to Stormfront on FR.

23 posted on 12/20/2007 7:51:36 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Jean S

Wow. Now it’s just getting funny. Two schmucks out of hundreds approach him after a debate for an autograph and a picture and it’s supposed to say something about him. Looks like the neoconservatives have never lost the smear-tactic playbook they used against Goldwater back in the 60s when they were open leftists: “Racist, racist, racist! Squawk!”


24 posted on 12/20/2007 7:52:13 PM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: Wallace T.

***I strongly suspect this is photoshopped or the people are misidentified as being Don Black and his son.***

I do believe it is DB. I did a search and saw a photo of DB and the photos are of him.

I agree, it is a smear tactic. However, others will have fun teeing off on this one.

Thank you.


25 posted on 12/20/2007 7:52:54 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: Wallace T.
You have to wonder why these pseudo-conservatives are getting so worked up about someone who has never gotten past the single digits in any poll.

We don't have to wonder.

Isn't it plainly obvious that Ron Paul is the only candidate challenging the political orthodoxy, both directly in the issues he raises and, indirectly, in the way his supporters have skirted traditional fund-raising methods -- which his opponents greatly envy, by the way -- to achieve the visibility denied him by the major media?

He's the only major candidate not a member of the "club," much to the others' chagrin.

26 posted on 12/20/2007 7:52:54 PM PST by logician2u
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To: rineaux
GIve us the link to the photos.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28353_Ron_Pauls_Photo-Op_with_Stormfront

Post #191

27 posted on 12/20/2007 7:53:13 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: jrooney
LGF exposed the fake guard docs run by Rather on CBS.

Oh, the memories! I joined FR under an earlier handle in October of 2004 because of LGF's exposure of Rathergate and all the references to freerepublic.com.

I'll agree: The LGF guys are more than pretty good. Let's see what becomes of this.
28 posted on 12/20/2007 7:54:27 PM PST by Das Outsider (Humperdinck!)
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To: traviskicks
He almost looked ashamed that he even asked the question. And Paul is right on with his remarks about all the bundlers, and lobbyists, and big money folks with their own nonfreedom promoting agendas, all ignored in favor of the emotional, a $500 donation.

CLASSIC!! I so agree with you. ROFL.

The lets throw something else up against the wall and see if it sticks mentality.

29 posted on 12/20/2007 7:57:27 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: rineaux
"Ron Paul did a great job defending himself. I have never seen Neil so lost for words."

Cavuto leans pretty libertarian on economic matters. I think he has some sympathy for Paul's campaign.

30 posted on 12/20/2007 7:57:38 PM PST by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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To: jrooney
Little Green football and their posters are pretty darn good at spotting fakes.

They were spotted here on FR.

31 posted on 12/20/2007 7:57:46 PM PST by TankerKC (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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To: jrooney
LGF exposed the fake guard docs run by Rather on CBS.

False! A freeper exposed the fake docs first.

32 posted on 12/20/2007 7:58:01 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Das Outsider

This will be interesting but not surprising.


33 posted on 12/20/2007 7:58:22 PM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: Jean S

I heard M Savage just long enough today to hear him make a link to some neo Nazi on his support committee. It was around the 3 o’clock hour PST if he keeps transcripts. I don’t listen to the guy other than dialing for a station...


34 posted on 12/20/2007 7:59:22 PM PST by tubebender (Lost another one to the Tag Line bandit...)
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To: TankerKC; Jean S

My apologies to the freeper that exposed them here too first then.


35 posted on 12/20/2007 8:00:46 PM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: Das Outsider

I am a freelance photographer. The photos are too low resolution to do a complete analysis, but they do not look manipulated. The lighting is consistant, and there is no evidence, that I can see, of photoshop cloning.

I will give Paul the benefit of the doubt here. He may not have known who these guys were, or may have just done the photo-op to get them off his back.


36 posted on 12/20/2007 8:04:23 PM PST by camerakid400
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To: okie01

I’ve had my picture taken with the owner of the Bunny Ranch ( very nice man), yet never considered that line of work. Also in a picture with Colin Powell (who is a very nice man also by the way) but never supported his foreign policy. And, heaven forbid, I’m related to company CEO’s and outlaws. None of which has anything to do with my character and direction in life.


37 posted on 12/20/2007 8:04:27 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Jean S

American Thinker

The Ron Paul Campaign and its Neo-Nazi Supporters
By Andrew Walden

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_ron_paul_campaign_and_its.html


38 posted on 12/20/2007 8:06:11 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Alouette

Thanks, I looked at the link. I saw the two photos posted earlier and 3 others on the link you gave me which I guess goes to stormfront? So 5 different photos is not 100. The exact same photo posted several times, would not count. Is there more and I am missing it?


39 posted on 12/20/2007 8:06:16 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: rineaux

There is an open file folder at Stormfront with 100’s of Ron Paul photo-ops in it.

The link is given in post #226 on the LGF thread. I am not posting a link to Stormfront on FR.


40 posted on 12/20/2007 8:08:33 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette
GIve us the link to the photos. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28353_Ron_Pauls_Photo-Op_with_Stormfront Post #191

You guys must be joking right? Is that it? Two guys walk up and ask for an autograph and you think that means there's some kind of a conspiracy?

I wouldn't have any idea who those guys were either unless someone told me.



41 posted on 12/20/2007 8:11:23 PM PST by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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To: rineaux

He had his picture taken with them and he accepted money from them. It’s time for the Paul fans to disprove it instead of asking us to prove it over and over and over again.


42 posted on 12/20/2007 8:11:37 PM PST by Jean S
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To: antinomian

Did you happen to see the clip? Worth viewing if you haven’t already.

These guys do not ask about the candidates policies , they just want to know how they “feel” about some insignificant commercial, suit, tie, etc. When Cavuto asked Paul about the 500.00 donation, I think he did an excellent job. Sympathy or not, Neil was lost for words. Don’t think he was expecting Paul to answer the way he did.

Respect Neil for allowing Paul to answer the questions that were asked. Some of these guys just like to ask the question and start answering for them or talking over them.


43 posted on 12/20/2007 8:16:07 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: Jean S

I agree the picture does not change my mind one way or the other. However his other statements are way out there. That alone is the reason I have Paul at the bottom of my list.


44 posted on 12/20/2007 8:16:23 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Jean S

“We know that he’s not a white nationalist. He says he isn’t and we believe him, but on the issues, there’s only one choice,” Black told the Associated Press today.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59294


45 posted on 12/20/2007 8:16:53 PM PST by mommya
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To: Alouette

I don’t see photos that directly connect Paul to Stormfront or white supremacists, other than the fact that they are big fans and like to go to his events. All of the photos seem one way, none (other than the ones posted of him posed with the Blacks above)appear to be of him actually engaging with white supremacists.


46 posted on 12/20/2007 8:17:02 PM PST by LWalk18
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To: Jean S

Okay. So if I have a picture of someone, in any context, then that person “had a photo op” with me. Even if I’m nowhere to be seen in the photo?


47 posted on 12/20/2007 8:17:24 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: LWalk18

He also took their money and refuses to return it.


48 posted on 12/20/2007 8:18:03 PM PST by Jean S
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To: rineaux
Value Voter’s Debate. I think a bigger story than who took photos with whom, is who invited Don Black to that. It was a limited selection audience.
49 posted on 12/20/2007 8:19:16 PM PST by mnehring (Ron Paul: 'When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'..)
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To: tacticalogic
Even if I’m nowhere to be seen in the photo?

Uh, he's in the photos.

50 posted on 12/20/2007 8:19:24 PM PST by Jean S
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