[Man50D]

DH believes in globull warming, and said so in a televised debate.

The purpose of the Kyotoy Protocol is to address global warming. Hunter voted against the Kyoto Protocol. Voted NO on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol.

"Vote on an amendment that would allow the implementation of the portions of the Kyoto climate change treaty that are already allowed under law. The Kyoto protocol of 1997, which aims to reduce emissions of certain greenhouse gases, particularly carbon dioxide, has not been ratified by the United States. The amendment would allow federal agencies, particularly the Environmental Protection Agency [EPA] to implement procedures already allowed under law that are also part of the Kyoto accord before the treaty is ratified by Congress. "

DH supports free trade with Muslim countries.

The only free trade agreement he supports is with Australia. Duncan Hunter On Free Trade

Let's buy American this Christmas season. (Nov 2007)
Reflect tariffs back at competitors. (Oct 2007)
North American Union is only free trade in one direction. (Sep 2007)
Inappropriate to impose sanctions for persecuting Christians. (Sep 2007)
No NAFTA Superhighway from Canada to Mexico. (Sep 2007)
China is cheating on trade by devaluing their currency. (May 2007) Eliminate all manufacturing taxes to increase US hiring. (May 2007)
China is cheating on trade; junk our bad China trade deals. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on implementing CAFTA, Central America Free Trade. (Jul 2005)
Voted YES on implementing US-Australia Free Trade Agreement. (Jul 2004)
Voted NO on implementing US-Singapore free trade agreement. (Jul 2003)
Voted NO on implementing free trade agreement with Chile. (Jul 2003)
Voted YES on withdrawing from the WTO. (Jun 2000)
Voted NO on 'Fast Track' authority for trade agreements. (Sep 1998)
Rated 24% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record. (Dec 2002)



DH supports the fair tax - which would require a 34% sales tax to even equal current revenues from income tax alone.

The basis of this claim is patently false. The Fair Tax Rate is not 34%. There are embedded taxes in every item purchased under The Fair Tax due to corporate taxes and compliance costs passed onto the consumer. The total of this tax inclusive rate is 23%. The amount of tax dollars collected from the inclusive rate will be removed from the price as The Fair Tax will abolish corporate taxes. A $100 item will be reduced to $77(100-23%). The dollar amount collected from the tax inclusive rate will be applied separately from the price(23/77) as a tax exclusive of 30%. The result is the same amount collected with The Fair Tax as with the income tax and less than the rate you incorrectly claim. This doesn't factor in the effective tax rate after the prebate is deducted from the exclusive tax rate.

Duncan Hunter isn't as conservative as he wants us to believe.

The glaring omission of any specific facts to back up your statements clearly indicate Duncan Hunter is more Conservative then you wish to believe.

[Man50D]

are embedded taxes in every item purchased under The Fair Tax are embedded taxes in every item purchased under The Fair Tax

Should be under the income tax instead of The Fair Tax.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

The purpose of the Kyotoy Protocol is to address global warming. Hunter voted against the Kyoto Protocol. Voted NO on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol.

What is this, slow-pitch softball?

Notice that I didn't say that Hunter voted for Kyoto. I said he believes in global warming. IIRC, he was among the ones who raised his hand in a recent televised debate, incidating he believed in the phenomenon.

And also, to make a nitpicky point, Hunter has never voted NO on implementing Kyoto. This is for two reasons: 1) Kyoto has never been brought before the US Senate, and 2) Hunter has never been in the US Senate. Senators vote on treaties, not Representatives. I think what you meant to say was that Hunter voted against implementing portions of the treaty which would already be legal under US law. And for that, he was correct to do so.

The only free trade agreement he supports is with Australia. Duncan Hunter On Free Trade

That is demonstrably untrue. Let's add a couple more votes to your list:

Voted YES on implementing US-Bahrain Free Trade Agreement(7 Dec 2005)

Voted YES on implementing US-Oman Free Trade Agreement (20 July 2006)

This latter bill was criticised by Rep. Mike Rogers (R-AL3) for providing a backdoor for China and India to still flood the US with cheap goods, something that Rep. Hunter says he opposes.

And in general, I consider government interference in the free trade of goods and commerce to be patently unconservative.

The basis of this claim is patently false. The Fair Tax Rate is not 34%.

Ahem, read what I wrote again. I didn't say that the rate proposed for the Fair Tax was 34%, I said that to be revenue-neutral, it would have to be set at 34% - the difference in numbers being due to the fact that Fair Tax proponents are not very good at math. And this is only if we consider the Fair Tax an alternative to income taxes. If it is to revenue-neutral so as to allow the elimination of ALL federal taxes, the rate would have to be even higher. The non-partisan group Factcheck.org points out that much of the rhetoric in support of the Fair Tax is hot air - even the President's Advisory Council Panel on Tax Reform says the numbers won't work as Fair Tax Proponents say they will. FWIW, Factcheck.org also points out why the "embedded tax" argument is bogus. The Fair Tax can't be considered a "conservative" idea, no matter how its proponents spin it. It taxes everything - doctor bills, home sale, interest on mortgages and credit cards - everything. the Fair Tax would be detrimental to me. If we had a Fair Tax when I bought my first house three and a half years ago, I would have paid slightly less than $30,000 more for that house - not including the jump in monthly mortgage payments on interest. This $30,000 would NOT have been anywhere near made up for in the elimination of my corporate payroll income tax. Besides, Fair Tax proponents tout it as being "revenue neutral", which means Fair Tax proponents STILL want the US taxpayers to be shelling out trillions of dollars each year to support Federal largesse, which certainly is not conservative. No thanks. Let's just keep the present system (for the time being), and lower its rates immensely, while concurrently eliminating much of what the Federal government does.

So, like I said, while I LIKE Duncan Hunter, and he is a close second for me to Fred, Duncan still has some issues as well.