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Baptists Not On Board
Washington Post ^ | 12/20/2007 | Robert D. Novak

Posted on 12/21/2007 9:34:56 AM PST by glmjr

When Mike Huckabee went to Houston on Tuesday to raise funds for his fast-rising, money-starved presidential candidacy, a luncheon for the ordained Baptist minister was arranged by evangelical Christians. On hand was Judge Paul Pressler, a hero to Southern Baptist Convention reformers. But he was a nonpaying guest who supports Fred Thompson for president.

Huckabee greeted Pressler warmly. That contrasted with Huckabee's anger two months ago when they encountered each other in California. The former governor of Arkansas took issue then with comments by Pressler, a former Texas appeals court judge, that Huckabee had been a slacker in the war against secularists within the Baptist church.

The warmth in Texas and hostility in California reflects the dual personality of the pastor-politician who has broken out of the presidential campaign's second tier. Huckabee can come across as either a Reagan or a Nixon. More than personality explains why not all his Baptist brethren have signed on the dotted line for Huckabee. He did not join the "conservative resurgence" that successfully rebelled against liberals in the Southern Baptist Convention a generation ago.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: against; baptists; fredthompson; huckabee; novak; sbc
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1 posted on 12/21/2007 9:34:58 AM PST by glmjr
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To: glmjr

So, Huckabee is either “way too Christian” or “not Christian enough?”


2 posted on 12/21/2007 9:40:10 AM PST by wastedpotential
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To: glmjr
Robert Novak has not one iota of a clue about Southern Baptist.

Southern Baptist are coming apart at the seams, thanks to pseudo ministers like Rick Warren.

The message is, that anything that is being said, by or about Southern Baptist at this time should be taken with a grain of salt.

3 posted on 12/21/2007 9:40:27 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: wastedpotential

Try “way too liberal.”


4 posted on 12/21/2007 9:42:27 AM PST by Gil4 ("There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism" - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: glmjr

Judge Pressler is a good guy. I’m glad he is supporting Fred Thompson.


5 posted on 12/21/2007 9:43:16 AM PST by San Jacinto (Three dangers to guard against: Osama, Obama, and Chelsea's Momma!!!)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Judge Pressler is one of those opposed to Rick Warren and those like him that are trying to liberalize the Southern Baptists. His earlier comments on Huckabee lumped him in with the others that are tearing things up. I would definitely believe Judge Pressler on this.


6 posted on 12/21/2007 9:50:42 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: Ingtar

I just know that Adrian Rogers would never have had someone that he could not call a conservative filling the pulpit while he was out.


7 posted on 12/21/2007 9:53:53 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: wastedpotential

No, he is ethically challenged.


8 posted on 12/21/2007 9:55:41 AM PST by libbylu (I am voting for the prettiest.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

From here in Memphis, TN, it appears that God called Dr. Rogers home so he wouldn’t have to see this mess.


9 posted on 12/21/2007 10:01:01 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: Ingtar

Huckabee is a CLOWN who will say anything to gain a vote!
Ya get a NO SALE here, pal.
GO SELL CRAZY SOME PLACE ELSE, WE’RE ALL STOCKED UP HERE WITH NANCY AND HARRY!


10 posted on 12/21/2007 10:02:52 AM PST by A. Morgan
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To: A. Morgan

I’m not selling Huckabee.


11 posted on 12/21/2007 10:05:28 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: Ingtar

My comments are directed to Huckabee aka, Huck, Huckster, The BIG HUCKLEBERRY or his supporters and the Washington Compost writer of this piece.


12 posted on 12/21/2007 10:12:22 AM PST by A. Morgan
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To: Ingtar
Maybe I don't understand because it was "before my time", but war with liberal elements within the church just seems funny. I mean, it all boils down to replacing God and the church with government, right?

As for Rick Warren, I seem to remember that along with liberalization there's some pretty shoddy theology in there. From my point of view it's when they try to put God/Christ in a box and it just goes downhill from there...
13 posted on 12/21/2007 10:17:07 AM PST by jack_napier (Bob? Gun.)
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To: wastedpotential
So, Huckabee is either “way too Christian” or “not Christian enough?”

Courtesy comment:

It’s not that the Huckster is either or too Christian or not too Christian.

The real question is that he is not Presidential enough.

14 posted on 12/21/2007 10:21:18 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: jack_napier

You are essentially correct on Warren.


15 posted on 12/21/2007 10:23:45 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Southern Baptist are coming apart at the seams, thanks to pseudo ministers like Rick Warren.

The message is, that anything that is being said, by or about Southern Baptist at this time should be taken with a grain of salt.

Courtesy comment:

Excellent observation.

Rick Warren turned me off some time ago.

I bit off and bought his book the Purposeful Driven Life and just could not get into the book.

Way to many so called or self called Christians are looking for any excuse for not living to what the bible says Christians must do to get a free ticket to eternity.

I have been in the Baptist church since a young child but lately I see many Baptists are taking the mediocre road that many of these Mega Church pastors are preaching.

It’s all about money, Money, MONEY and Amen Mo Money in the collection plate.

16 posted on 12/21/2007 10:32:23 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Ingtar
My family has been torn apart, and I don’t see God within a million miles of Bellevue .

Hopefully Dr. Rogers is sitting at Jesus’s feet as an advocate.

17 posted on 12/21/2007 10:58:30 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek

Southern Baptist are coming apart at the seams, thanks to pseudo ministers like Rick Warren.”
__________________________

...thanks to “hirelings” such as Rick Warren.

sigh~


18 posted on 12/21/2007 11:01:00 AM PST by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: Coldwater Creek

That is the other reason I think God called him home when He did.


19 posted on 12/21/2007 11:34:52 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: glmjr

Huckabee has surged because he won a couple of debates and he’s got evangelical support. If a quick rise can happen to the liberal pro-life evangelical Huckster, it can happen to the conservative pro-life evangelical Hunter.

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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts


20 posted on 12/21/2007 1:44:57 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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