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Pastor, Can You Spare Us? (Mike Huckabee/John Hagee)
National Review Online ^ | Deember 21, 2007 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 12/22/2007 7:45:57 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule

With great power comes great responsibility. And Mike Huckabee, once and future Baptist preacher, could afford to watch where he’s taking to the pulpit.

That’s “future” because the former evangelical pastor will be at John Hagee’s Cornerstone Church on Sunday.

According to a San Antonio Huckabee meetup site, Huckabee will be speaking at two Sunday services at the Texas megachurch.

He’ll be making the appearances just days after he told CBS News that “It’s not like [I’m] stepping from the pulpit last Sunday and running for president.”

But maybe next Sunday . . .

The problem with this particular church is its pastor. It is no secret that evangelicals and Catholics have their theological differences. If we didn’t we’d all be under the same church roof like once upon a time. But Hagee has been particularly outspoken beyond his Cornerstone Church, as a supporter of Israel and a prolific writer. His activism has brought some attention to his views on the Catholic Church.

In Hagee’s “black history” of the Catholic Church, for example, Catholics were far from only guilty of sins of omission when it came to the Nazis, they also gave Hitler his blueprint, according to Hagee. In a speech this year, Hagee pointed to the Catholic Church as having provided the jumping-off point for the Holocaust, claiming: “That was really drawn by the Roman church. [Hitler] did not do anything differently. He only did it more ruthlessly, and on a national scale.” The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights has long been concerned about Hagee’s rhetoric, calling him a “veteran bigot,” accusing him of distorting Catholic teachings and misrepresenting Church history. The League has cautioned that, “Tone matters … and Hagee’s tone is nothing but derisive.”

Hagee is politically active and has had candidates at his church before and is likely to again. It’s probably only natural that Huckabee would be among them. And certainly other candidates have courted or been endorsed by religious figures who are not known for their ecumenical diplomacy. But after weeks of being a divider, not a uniter — pretending to innocently raise questions about Mormon theology to a New York Times reporter, informing Today Show viewers that he is really the choice for evangelicals — Huckabee should be sensitive to his unnecessarily exclusionary tactics.

As the former governor of Arkansas, successor to the Little Rock Clinton administration, Mike Huckabee above all people should understand the importance of having a strong coalition to BEAT HER in the fall.

Speaking like a man seeking to be president of evangelical America, not president of the United States, Huckabee told Meredith Vieira earlier this week: “There’s a sense in which all these years the evangelicals have been treated very kindly by the Republican party. They wanted us to be a part of it, and then one day, one of us actually runs and they say, ‘Oh, my gosh! Now they’re serious.’”

Huckabee, meanwhile, is leaving some non-evangelical conservatives wondering, “Oh, my gosh. Maybe they never wanted to be allied with us.” Huckabee is working right now, intentionally or not, on breaking down a winning coalition of religious conservatives.

When Pope John Paul II died in 2005, some of the most moving statements coming out of congressional offices were from evangelical conservatives who viewed him as an important leader in defending the sanctity of human life. Many of them had adopted his “culture of life” language and thinking. They saw him as an ally and were inspired by his leadership. They joined him, despite theological differences, in important cultural and political fights. It was and is a natural pairing. Mike Huckabee, who is not a conservative on all things, but is on social issues, should know that and treasure and protect and foster these alliances. He’s a riveting speaker who could rally social conservatives, at least to whip them up to fight another day. Instead, he’s executing a divide-and-conquer strategy.

When Mitt Romney was convinced he had to give a “Mormon speech,” he gave a speech about religious liberty and America. It wasn’t, in other words, about him. Of course, that was, in part, a political calculation — how much could be gained by talking about Mormon theology during a political campaign? But it was also just the right thing. It’s a political campaign and people want to hear about his political thinking — what America means to him and how he fits into it all, what he can offer Americans in terms of leadership. Since Mike Huckabee has found himself at the front of the Republican field, it’s been more The Mike Show than not. In a treadmill interview with the New York Times earlier this week, he claimed “I’m being questioned about the details of my faith like no one else.” Mitt Romney and Barack Obama might legitimately argue that point, Gov. He’s cast aspersions on another candidate’s religion. He’s highlighted hostilities among evangelicals and others in the Republican party. If he keeps this up, he’s going to do some unholy damage.

With all due respect to Hagee and his congregation (who are, of course, entitled to believe and say as they choose), Mike Huckabee should cancel his Sunday plans with Hagee. It can be his Christmas present to his party — to hold it together instead of continuing to tear it apart.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2008; catholics; hagee; huckabee; tx2008
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Interesting. Not a fan at all of Hagee.
1 posted on 12/22/2007 7:45:59 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Hagee might be a great preacher, but I would rather vote according to the candidates history, voting record and current stance or world events.


2 posted on 12/22/2007 7:52:30 PM PST by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
At least it’s genuine when Pastor Mike speaks at a Church.

OTOH, when Hillary steps inside a Church to speak....

Total hypocrisy.

3 posted on 12/22/2007 7:52:33 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Paul/Kucinich (MCKINNEY!!!) for 2008! [Yes, of course I'm insane - Why do you ask?])
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

If someone like Bloomberg runs third party, the evangelicals are going to be a HUGE force.

Just stating fact.


4 posted on 12/22/2007 7:55:50 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Eccl 10:2
If someone like Bloomberg runs third party, the evangelicals are going to be a HUGE force.

So who do you vote for when three Socialists run?

5 posted on 12/22/2007 7:58:07 PM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
"Huckabee told Meredith Vieira earlier this week: “There’s a sense in which all these years the evangelicals have been treated very kindly by the Republican party. They wanted us to be a part of it, and then one day, one of us actually runs and they say, ‘Oh, my gosh! Now they’re serious.’”"

I don't know about every evangelical, but I certainly thought of George Bush as being "one of us". And I don't remember the party being put off by that.

In fact, I haven't seen the party being put off by Huckabee being "one of us". I see them being put off by his attacks on the President, and his insistance that he's the only real pick for evangelicals, simply BECAUSE he is one.

I'd prefer a strong christian, or at least a man of faith who practices their faith, but I don't pick my candidate simply because they belong to my church, or have the same hair color I do either.

6 posted on 12/22/2007 8:03:19 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
Not a fan at all of Hagee.

I am...mostly. He tells it like it is on many cultural issues without remorse

Preachers in the race really brings out the anti-Christians and in particular the Anti-Prods round here

and no....I don't like Huckster and shame on him for not standing up to his cross in the as thingie

he shoulda said...damn straight that's a cross folks....so what?

7 posted on 12/22/2007 8:03:26 PM PST by wardaddy (I have come to the conclusion that even though imperfect....Thompson is my choice by far.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
I'm a Hagee fan.

Rush has some good policy questions for "The Christian" candidate.

Answers I'm looking forward to hear.

8 posted on 12/22/2007 8:05:40 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
With all due respect to Hagee and his congregation (who are, of course, entitled to believe and say as they choose), Mike Huckabee should cancel his Sunday plans with Hagee. It can be his Christmas present to his party — to hold it together instead of continuing to tear it apart.

So, since all Fundamentalist Protestant churches are by definition "anti-Catholic" and anti-ecumenical, I suppose NR now is going to say that speaking at any of them should disqualify a candidate? (And btw, I'm not for Huckabee.)

I can't help but wonder if the real reason for this blow-up isn't Hagee's long history of strong theological support for Israel.

9 posted on 12/22/2007 8:07:08 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (" . . . vehinneh, haseneh bo`er ba'esh, vehaseneh 'enennu 'ukkal.")
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Hagee is an anti-Catholic bigot.


10 posted on 12/22/2007 8:07:42 PM PST by gpapa (My idea of gun control is a good, steady aim)
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To: Eccl 10:2

Why do you think that?


11 posted on 12/22/2007 8:10:51 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Amnesty is Huckabee's middle name!)
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To: gpapa

You have it right. Straightforwardly so.


12 posted on 12/22/2007 8:11:11 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
He’s cast aspersions on another candidate’s religion.

When? Where? I must have missed that. Either I missed Huckster "casting aspersions" or someone is not being entirely truthful.

I'm not backing the Huck because he's too liberal or moderate to suit me on many issues like immigration and taxes, but columnists shouldn't fib about his campaign speeches or anyone else's. Maybe he did "cast aspersions" on another candidate's religion, but if he did I haven't heard anything about it until now.

13 posted on 12/22/2007 8:13:18 PM PST by epow ( Choose ye this day whom you will serve ......)
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To: wardaddy

I’m with you — Hagee is a straight shooter and spot-on when speaking about cultural issues. He’s also one of the very few in his position who speaks the truth about Islam without fear. ...and as you mentioned, without remorse.

Wish there were more like him.


14 posted on 12/22/2007 8:16:48 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Just what we need a Holy Roller Socialist! /sarc


15 posted on 12/22/2007 8:24:25 PM PST by A. Morgan
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

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HUCKABEE = The Anti-REAGAN

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16 posted on 12/22/2007 8:30:09 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I totally agree with you and I would add, he’s spot on about Israel as well.


17 posted on 12/22/2007 8:31:19 PM PST by Picklezz ( (HUNTER: SOLID! Tops on: Illegals, Trade, DPRK, Iran/Iraq, Economy, WOT, PRC, Budget, PROLife))
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I may be misunderstanding his position, so someone correct me if I’m wrong... but hasn’t Hagee said that Jesus is not the Messiah? Again, not making an accusation, I just want that to be clarified.


18 posted on 12/22/2007 8:38:44 PM PST by incindiary (James 1:25)
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To: gpapa
I suppose you would say that of anyone who criticized the Catholic Church. The fact is that it did make lots of mistakes and screw ups that they are paying for and will be paying for in the future. I have nothing against Catholics but hiding your head in the sand is ludicrous also.
19 posted on 12/22/2007 8:42:26 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: incindiary

Yeah, isn’t Hagee the one who said that Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah.... I believe I read that. I’d be curious if that’s indeed true.


20 posted on 12/22/2007 8:44:59 PM PST by elk
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