Posted on 12/23/2007 6:06:49 AM PST by Liz
"And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone around about them; and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, "Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto to you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord. " Luke 2:10-12
God Bless you Liz for this wonderful reminder of what the season’s all about :)
Merry Christmas.
amen
May the lord bless you this holiday season. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
God Bless
Merry Christmas.
Yes! Amen! “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will torward men. “ (Luke 2:14).
Just thinking, all this is not PC; but its JC (that is its JESUS CORRECT) That is most important !!!!!!!!!!
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
“And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night”
That says that Jesus wasn’t born in December. Shepherds aren’t in the fields in Israel that month. It gets too cold.
The Winter Solstice, however, was to celebrate the birth of Nimrod of Babylon.
I read somewhere that He was actually born in August or September; elsewhere, I read October or even as late as November. It appears December 25 was chosen as a bromide to pagan sensibilities (i.e., the celebration of the Winter Solstice). But, really, the date of His actual birth is not important; that He came to us is what is important.
Merry Christmas, my friends!
Do you have a point?
You were saying... “That says that Jesus wasn’t born in December. Shepherds aren’t in the fields in Israel that month. It gets too cold.
The Winter Solstice, however, was to celebrate the birth of Nimrod of Babylon.”
Well, the world goes about its affairs regardless of what God or Jesus does and/or how God has presented His plan of salvation to the world. What you should know, though, is that there are dates and times which are significant to these events that God plans for humanity.
The time of the year in which we do remember and celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, comes at the “darkest time of the year”, at which time was also celebrated the “Festival of Lights” in Israel. And it was at this time of the year, that the angel Gabriel came to Mary to tell her what God had planned for her.
So, it was during this “darkest time of the year” that the “Light of the world” came into the world (i.e., He was conceived in His humanity, at this time), at the time of “darkness” in the world — this “darkness” that you speak about, in reference to “Nimrod of Babylon”. Jesus comes into the world to bring “light” to “darkness”.
The Festival of Lights, an event that Jesus Himself blessed by His own attendance at that yearly event, is the time that God chose for Jesus to “come into the world” to bring “light” unto the world.
And then, at the time of the New Year (in Israel), came the birth of Jesus (on the Feast of Trumpets) — quite appropriate, I would say. So, it was at this time that the shepherds were in the fields (at this time of the Feast of Trumpets).
Therefore, the Kingdom of God, comes into the world, at the darkest time of the year, to take dominion away from “Nimrod of Babylon” (and the others like him), and was announced and “trumpeted” for His birth at the Feast of Trumpets, by the angels and the shepherds.
How appropriate, I would say. God’s timing is designed to “take away dominion” of this world away from the “Nimrods of Babylon”...
Regards,
Star Traveler
You said — “But, really, the date of His actual birth is not important; that He came to us is what is important.”
I think this is as important as the fact that He came to us. It’s very significant that Jesus was conceived (in his humanity, not in His divinity) at the darkest time of the year, to be the “Light of the world”. And then, He was born at the time of the New Year, at the Feast of Trumpets. God fixes all these things exactly as He wants, in His infinite knowledge and wisdom and power.
Regards,
Star Traveler
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“And it was at this time of the year, that the angel Gabriel came to Mary to tell her what God had planned for her.”
“And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth - - “ - Luke 1:26
The sixth month was December?
The Saturnalia was celebrated in pagan Rome by exchanging gifts and wild inbibing. Sound familiar? That suggests to me what we’re really observing with Christmas.
You said — “And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth - - “ - Luke 1:26
The sixth month was December?”
That was the sixth month into the pregnancy of Mary’s relative, Elizabeth (pregnant with John the Baptist). And, yes, that was the time of the Festival of Lights. “December” is not on the Jewish calendar, but it was that time of year — yes... [for the Jewish calendar it’s Kislev].
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The Saturnalia was celebrated in pagan Rome by exchanging gifts and wild inbibing. Sound familiar? That suggests to me what we’re really observing with Christmas.
Now, as I said, the “world” will go about its affairs, regardless of what God has planned for humanity and in bringing “the light of the world” to humanity at the darkest time of the year.
The Festival of Lights has a historical event anchoring its celebration and predating anything having to do with Rome (in Israel) at the time. So, even though in another part of the world Rome may have been doing “its thing” (with its celebration), the Jews had long been observing and celebrating the Festival of Lights from its own history (completely apart from Rome and its holidays). And since God had planned the entrance of Jesus (who is called the “light of the world”) — it is very appropriate for Jesus to be “incarnate” (in human form) at that time of the year, which is the darkest time of the year.
And the fact that Rome and other parts of the world celebrated in their debauchery, is all the more reason for God to bring the “light of the world” into humanity in order to be the salvation of the world, at that very appropriate time to take away “dominion” of this world, away from the “Nimrods of Babylon” wherever they exist.
God chooses very appropriate times, in order to get His message across to the world...
Regards,
Star Traveler
...”The Saturnalia was celebrated in pagan Rome by exchanging gifts and wild inbibing. Sound familiar? That suggests to me what we’re really observing with Christmas.”
(Don’t forget going into more financial debt for many. Slaves to the lender.) Overall, looking at the culture, I would agree.
Thank you. Merry Christmas
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