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How New York invented Christmas
NY Daily News ^ | December 23 2007 | John Steele Gordon

Posted on 12/23/2007 7:40:24 AM PST by knighthawk

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To: raybbr
Are saying that Christmas didn't exist before NY "invented" it?

Yep. The Original Chritmas day was more of a festive celebration, mush like Thanksgiving. It was NY that commercialized it and changed the reason for the season into a secular commercialized holiday, with Santa as the focus and greed and abundance of material crap the measure of how great your Christmas will be.

So if you too believe this holiday is being exploted to perverse commercialized levels, protest by please sending all your newly bought Christmas material crap in care of Bommer.....

21 posted on 12/23/2007 10:34:36 AM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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To: knighthawk

Charles Dickens gets the credit.


22 posted on 12/23/2007 10:36:49 AM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: knighthawk; roughman; Not gonna take it anymore; GOP Poet; Apparatchik; GratianGasparri; jcwill; ...
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23 posted on 12/23/2007 10:36:55 AM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Bommer
So if you too believe this holiday is being exploted to perverse commercialized levels, protest by please sending all your newly bought Christmas material crap in care of Bommer.....

I try not to determine the spirituality of Christmas by the number of presents I buy.

However, here is one fellow in NY who figured out how to pay for his presents by charging people to come down a ladder in the blizzard of 1888. I guess you could say that New York also invented extortion.

After a long time somebody in the street raised a ladder. It was too short to reach the track. To get on it one had to swing down and grope with his toes for the topmost round, seeing nothing numbed and confused by the elements raging about him and the cold, hustled by other behind and himself crowding others in front in such eager haste on the part of all that the ladder was kept full of descending men for some time.

Then [someone] brought two ladders lashed together and so made long enough to extend above the side wall of the track so that it was comparatively easy of access. He charged twenty-five cents for each descent, by his route, standing at the top of the ladder and collecting from each person, shouting from time to time, "Look out down b'low, don't let the ladder slip."
From here.

Never let it be said that all New Yorkers have a heart.

24 posted on 12/23/2007 11:10:46 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; knighthawk
Then we got this guy who claims the Germans invented it.
25 posted on 12/23/2007 12:03:05 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: narses
This may come as a shock to those who celebrated all Twelve Days of Christmas in the Middle Ages. And John Francis Wade.
26 posted on 12/23/2007 12:12:27 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: knighthawk
Thanks for the ping...I was just telling my friend about this and she was incredulous. Now I have a great source.

I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and a terrific New Year!

27 posted on 12/23/2007 6:39:02 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Sacajaweau
We all know that Al Gore's great, great, great, great grandfather invented Christmas.

Let's be fair, he "conceived and took the initiative in creating" Christmas (like Al Gore did to the Internet).

28 posted on 12/23/2007 11:59:16 PM PST by Gigantor (McCarthy’s conspiracy theory has become an American reality.)
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To: knighthawk

Bagels AND Santa?? Thank you, New York!!


29 posted on 12/24/2007 12:02:54 AM PST by Yaelle (FRED, the most intelligent choice)
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To: StatenIsland
How do you celebrate Christmas on Staten Island? Do you guys decorate the Camaro with lights?

Just kidding. MERRY CHRISTMAS from New Brighton to Tottenville!

30 posted on 12/24/2007 12:08:35 AM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: wtc911
Saturnalia ends at sun-up, but I will respect the wishes of my Aunt and celebrate Christmas at her house this year.

Clement Clarke Moore developed Chelsea as a planned community with such innovations as "air shafts" to prevent fires. Of course, the world remembers him for inventing the reindeer and sleigh, but the Friends of Dorothy should venerate him for giving them their neighborhood.

31 posted on 12/24/2007 12:11:13 AM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: xkaydet65; Roccus; wtc911; Pharmboy; Cacique
Not only what you said, but religious freedom, which gives us the ‘right’ to celebrate Christmas (though presently under attack)was started in the New World in present day NYC 350 years ago this coming Thursday, Dec. 27.

I annoyed Freeper Cacique while we worked on a campaign in Queens back in '02 by pointing out this historic sight everytime we were on Northern Boulevard.

32 posted on 12/24/2007 12:15:47 AM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: xkaydet65

Sorry I’m so later getting back to you. My server was down.

Yup, that was it. I’ve brought this up on other threads in the past and was surprised how few here know about it.

Merry Christmas my FRiend.


33 posted on 12/24/2007 2:27:50 AM PST by Roccus (..........................FOR RENT......................)
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To: Clemenza

The Bowne House...know it well. };^)


34 posted on 12/24/2007 2:32:08 AM PST by Roccus (..........................FOR RENT......................)
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To: Clemenza; xkaydet65; wtc911

Clement Moore has a tie to Elmhurst as well. The playground across Broadway from the phone co. building was the site of his uncle’s farm house where he supposedly wrote “A Visit From St. Nicholas.” I remember an old house, not sure if it was the same one, on the site of todays park. The park and the old P.S. 13 at 94 St. and 55 Ave. were named for him.


35 posted on 12/24/2007 2:44:24 AM PST by Roccus (..........................FOR RENT......................)
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To: Clemenza

“How do you celebrate Christmas on Staten Island? Do you guys decorate the Camaro with lights? “

No, we hang candy canes and tinsel from the clothes lines strung from the back porch to the telephone pole.

And the Camaro’s been replaced by a Cadillac Escalade, all shiny black and chrome-y,lol.

Merry Christmas to you Garden Staters.


36 posted on 12/24/2007 5:19:25 AM PST by StatenIsland (I'm a Dead-Cat Republican; I'd vote for a dead cat before a Democrat.)
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To: Roccus
How right you are. Moore is also buried in a church cemetery in Queens. Some of my junior high kids went to K-6 at PS 13. Until Friday, when I did a Christmas in American History lesson, they had no idea who Clement Moore was. An astoundingly awful commenttary on my elementary school colleagues who teach in PS 13.

Anyway, in the words of Clement Moore "MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!"

37 posted on 12/24/2007 10:42:17 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Pharmboy

You too my friend!


38 posted on 12/24/2007 3:28:58 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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