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ARG Iowa: Huck 23%; Romney 21%; McCain 17%
American Research Group ^ | December 24, 2007

Posted on 12/24/2007 2:48:03 PM PST by Plutarch

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To: Sola Veritas; Travis McGee
But, you must realize that I’m a Huckabee supporter first...

Wow, a real Huckabee supporter at FR. All we've had at FR are really lame copy-and-paste shills. You can actually write something, though it be paranoid tin-foil hat bigotry, it is definitely an improvement from the Huckabee champions we've had so far.

I've had a special interest in Huckabee, discussed here. I think that Huckabee is lying about his famous weight loss, as he had it through gastric bypass, then had the audacity to write diet books about it, which makes him a sort of Elmer Pantry.

101 posted on 12/25/2007 9:37:35 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: Sola Veritas; Maynerd

“Besides there is plenty of material out there to indicate he “consults” the high dudes regularly and they have supported him.”


Tim Russert to Mitt Romney:
This is from November of ‘05, and it says, quote, “Romney sought advice from the man he admires most in this world, Mormon President Gordon Bitner Hinckley. The conversation eventually turned to whether a run for the presidency would be good for him and the church. The specifics of the conversation are, of course, known only to people who were there.”


102 posted on 12/25/2007 1:24:58 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: Petronski

You’re not a disgruntled freeper who opposes Romney, and is bitter over Thompson’s polling numbers?

I thought you said that if we’re posting the truth, then it’s not a smear?


103 posted on 12/25/2007 4:02:25 PM PST by bw17
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To: Democrat_media
Are Freepers that far off the national thought?

I am absolutely stunned that so many poll victims are proud to vote for Huckabee. Stunned. He is an obvious patent sociopathic LIAR. I don't care which side of the aisle he's on (meaning even if he WERE on OUR side). We don't need another lying Dope from Hope.

And you are right - I believe Freepers would not wish to go to the polls if our choice were Huck vs. Clinton. And if it were Obama vs. Huck I realize I'd probably be voting for Barack and hoping for a Republican win in the Congress.

I can only shake my head that people are not recognizing Fred Thompson for the statesman constitutionalist he is. He'd help America and maybe help save our party too. When is the NRA going to endorse???

104 posted on 12/25/2007 4:15:12 PM PST by Yaelle (Fred Thompson is the intelligent choice.)
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To: Fred

So Fred Thompson is bouncing around in the double digits but T. Thompson is struggling?? Who is T. Thompson?


105 posted on 12/25/2007 4:16:53 PM PST by Yaelle (Fred Thompson is the intelligent choice.)
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To: Rome2000

Good post, sad but true, and I PRAY HARD that you are right about our party smart enough to understand that only Fred can save us.


106 posted on 12/25/2007 4:18:52 PM PST by Yaelle (Fred Thompson is the only intelligent choice for conservatives.)
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To: bw17
You’re not a disgruntled freeper who opposes Romney, and is bitter over Thompson’s polling numbers?

Nope and double nope. I'm neither disgruntled nor bitter.

107 posted on 12/25/2007 4:21:25 PM PST by Petronski (Willard Myth Romney: 47% negatives)
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To: Petronski

If you say so.


108 posted on 12/25/2007 4:34:00 PM PST by bw17
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To: Plutarch; Sola Veritas
Elmer Gantry meets Elmer Pantry!

What kind of an egomaniac loses 100# with a gastric bypass, then pretends he did it with diet and excercise, and preaches same to the masses? President Nannystate?

"Honest, I never noticed that big glowing cross that drifts behind me for 16 seconds and disappears behind my head."

“Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”


109 posted on 12/25/2007 5:16:52 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Yaelle; Plutarch; AuntB
Have you read Plutarch's terrific post analyzing the Huckster's gastric bypass that he claims (sort of, in a Clintonesque parsed way) that he didn't have?

Now he lectures on healthy living!

110 posted on 12/25/2007 5:18:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Yaelle
Tommy Thompson ex-governor of Wisconsin
111 posted on 12/25/2007 5:44:35 PM PST by Fred (The Demoroid Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: Yaelle

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2007/12/21/straw-poll-dec-21-jan-4/

AOL Straw Poll

Republicans 103,816 votes
Paul 30%
Giuliani 17%
Huckabee 16%
McCain 14%
Romney 14%
Thompson 8%
Hunter 1%

Democrats 95, 894 votes
Clinton 45%
Obama 27%
Edwards 16%
Biden 4%
Kucinich 3%
Richardson 3%
Dodd 1%
Gravel 1%


112 posted on 12/25/2007 5:48:26 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47
Paul 30%???

Russian bots in high gear
113 posted on 12/25/2007 6:12:37 PM PST by Fred (The Demoroid Party is the Nadir of Nilhilism)
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To: Fred

:) Supposedly it’s a spam proof poll. I didn’t try to vote multiple times so I don’t know.


114 posted on 12/25/2007 6:15:59 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

Good post. I agree


115 posted on 12/25/2007 6:22:15 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Sola Veritas; Maynerd

Maynerd’s right. You ARE an embarrassment to FR,and a bigot!


116 posted on 12/25/2007 6:28:08 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Plutarch
"You can actually write something, though it be paranoid tin-foil hat bigotry, it is definitely an improvement from the Huckabee champions we've had so far." I think there is a compliment lurking in there somewhere, so I'm taking it that way. :-) At this particular point I'm not interested in writing about Mike Huckabee. I'm am wondering why Fred Thompson is not doing better? And it is not because I'm gloating; I don't feel that emotion over this issue. It just doesn't make sense to me. Fred should be doing better in Iowa. I saw this picture today on Drudge and it screamed to be captioned. I present this not as an insult, but because I honestly share the bewilderment:

"Unbelievable....these folks aren't understanding a thing I'm saying. I keep swinging that axe, but no chips are flyin."

117 posted on 12/25/2007 7:00:32 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

A good summary; I wholeheartedly agree.


119 posted on 12/25/2007 8:35:59 PM PST by littlehouse36
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To: Sola Veritas; Plutarch; Travis McGee

“When it comes to mormons, homosexuals, adulterers and other perversions. Then I’m glad to be called a “bigot.”

Your condemnation of Mormons is a particularly ugly bigotry. Have you ever lived around Mormons? Mormons are good neighbors. I’m not Mormon, not my thing. I was raised Baptist. But I’ve had the pleasure of their company throughout my life. Let’s forget prejudice and look at some facts. We could all learn some self reliance from the Mormons. This isn’t about Romney, not my thing, but it is about Huckabee. His kids should have turned out so well.

Sounds like the results are pretty ‘Chrisian like’ to me. You want to compare these stats with Arkansas?

Merry Chrismas.

http://www.adherents.com/largecom/lds_dem.html

Today it is the fourth largest religious body in the United States and the sixth largest international Christian religious body in the world

Approximately 12% of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints live in the state of Utah. Approximately 48% live in the United States.

The high degree to which Latter-day Saints follow the moral and dietary laws of their church (including sexual abstinence outside of marriage, emphasis on education, prohibition of abortion, proscriptions against violence, and total avoidance of alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea and illegal narcotics) cause their population and/or Utah to stand out in interesting ways in a variety of national demographic and sociological studies.

U.S. Govt. Census Bureau lists Utah as the state with the lowest teen pregnancy rate and the lowest abortion rate in the United States. [Source: Statistical Abstract of the United States 1997: National Data Book. Washington, D.C.: Census Bureau, U.S. Dept. of Commerce (1997).]

The CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics abortion statistics (1993) listed only two states with lower abortion ratios than Utah: Idaho (where 27% are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) and Wyoming.

Utah was ranked as the #1 best state in which to raise children in the 1996 rankings by the Children’s Right’s Council.

Utah remained No. 1 in the nation for fewest one-parent families.

The latest federal health figures (1997) rank Utah as having the fewest births to unwed mothers.

LDS women are more likely to graduate from college than Catholic or Protestant women, but less likely than Jewish or nonaffiliated women

LDS women are more likely to be employed in professional occupations than Catholic or Protestant women.

According to U.S. Bureau of Census data released April 2000, Utah “spends a larger percentage of state dollars on education” than any other state. Also, because of the high proportion of Latter-day Saints and the Church’s own comprehensive welfare system, Utah spends much less of its budget on public welfare than the other states. “On average, other states spend 22.4 percent of their budgets on public welfare; Utah spends 14 percent.” Utah also has the lowest Utah has the lowest child poverty rate in the county.

The National Institute of Mental Health ranked Utah as the second-lowest U.S. state in new inpatient admissions to state mental hospitals and the ranked Utah as having the lowest per-capita alcohol consumption.

The latest report (1999) by the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta confirmed that Utah still has the lowest smoking rate in the U.S.

In 2000 Self magazine ranked Provo, Utah as the number 1 healthiest city in the country for women

Young Mormon men living in Utah who closely adhere to the dictates of their faith are less likely to commit suicide than their peers who are less active in the church, study findings show.

According to IRS tax returns, Utahns rank first among all U.S. states in the proportion of income given to charity by the wealthy

The American Legislative Exchange Council’s (ALEC) Report Card on Education 1996 reported that Utah was ranked 7th academically in the nation, despite the fact that the state spent less money (49th in expenditures per pupil) than most other states.

National demographic studies indicate that couples in which both partners are Latter-day Saints (and who marry in a Latter-day Saint temple) have the lowest divorce rate among all U.S. social and religious groups studied.


120 posted on 12/25/2007 8:50:44 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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