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Doctor Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, slammed "human greed" in his Christmas sermon, saying it threatened the Earth's fragile environmental balance.

1 posted on 12/25/2007 6:24:50 AM PST by Zakeet
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There are now more Roman Catholics in England than Anglicans.

Gee, I wonder why?


2 posted on 12/25/2007 6:28:47 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Zakeet

—WWH8D—?? (What would Henry VIII do?)


3 posted on 12/25/2007 6:29:58 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Zakeet

No wonder Tony switched!


4 posted on 12/25/2007 6:30:16 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Zakeet

Thank the Archbishop for scaring many episcopalians and anglicans out of this decrepit “church.”
Archbishop of Canterbury: Nativity a “legend”

Mon, 24 December 2007

The Archbishop of Canterbury said that the Christmas story of the Three Wise Men was nothing but a ‘legend’.

The Daily Telegraph reported that Dr Rowan Williams has claimed there was little evidence that the Magi even existed and there was certainly nothing to show that there were three of them or that they were kings.

The Archbishop said the only reference to the wise men from the East was in Matthew’s gospel and the details were very vague.

Dr Williams said: “Matthew’s gospel says they are astrologers, wise men, priests from somewhere outside the Roman Empire, that’s all we’re really told. It works quite well as legend.”

He went on to dispel other details of the Christmas story, adding that there were probably no asses or oxen in the stable.

The archbishop argued that Christmas cards which showed the Virgin Mary cradling the baby Jesus, flanked by shepherds and wise men, were misleading. As for the scenes that depicted snow falling in Bethlehem, the Archbishop said the chance of this was “very unlikely”.

In a final blow to the traditional nativity story, Dr Williams concluded that Jesus was probably not born in December at all. He said: “Christmas was when it was because it fitted well with the winter festival.”


5 posted on 12/25/2007 6:30:28 AM PST by joeclarke
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To: Zakeet

Any mention of the Birth of Christ? I can’t read this right now I don’t want to ruin my day.


6 posted on 12/25/2007 6:31:01 AM PST by kalee
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To: Zakeet

Must be a Brit thing.

7 posted on 12/25/2007 6:32:33 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Zakeet

"He said what?

8 posted on 12/25/2007 6:33:01 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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He looks good in that photo.

His mouth is shut.

Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

9 posted on 12/25/2007 6:33:06 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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*ping*


10 posted on 12/25/2007 6:33:46 AM PST by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: Zakeet

Have a greedy, er, merry Christmas, Archbishop!


12 posted on 12/25/2007 6:40:58 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Zakeet

Well at least greed can’t trash people’s potential belief in the virgin birth or Christ’s Holiness. The Archbishop has been doing that all by his lonesome.


13 posted on 12/25/2007 6:47:28 AM PST by rod1
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To: Zakeet

It may be “greed”, but it is not due to practicing conscientious believers in a divine power. It is the SECULAR people, worried that they have but one bite at the apple and only in this lifetime, with no Heavenly reward awaiting them, that take the covetous sort of greed to to new heights.

Once assurance comes down that there is greater treasure in giving up earthly goods for benefit of others (but make sure the benefit WILL be bestowed), then being generous becomes so much easier.

The only real reason for acquiring great wealth, in the end, is to be generous and to reward the deserving, and hope to reform the undeserving.


14 posted on 12/25/2007 6:49:26 AM PST by alloysteel (Ignorance is no handicap for some people in a debate. They just get more shrill.)
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Many in the UK are returning to Catholicism because of the PC pagan orientation of the Church Of England. The Anglicans are dying. What does Father Rowan offer besides left-wing political dogma masquerading as spiritual exhortations? No wonder its in crisis.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 12/25/2007 6:59:17 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I think I prefer the quote from the Archbishop of York:

“In the killing, raping and looting fields of Darfur; in the broken nation and a broken people of Zimbabwe who have been force-fed with injustice and can swallow no more; for the unreconciled children of Abraham in the Middle East — the Palestinians without a viable state they can call home and Israelis hungry for peace and security; for the refugees, the homeless and people caught up in human trafficking ... God is being violated and blasphemed,” he said.”

Not much argue with there, except the partial moral equivalency he assigns to Israelis and Palestinians. But note that he doesn’t claim the Palis are “hungry for peace.”


16 posted on 12/25/2007 7:03:09 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Zakeet

Gee, when the Arch Druid of Canterbury speaks we should listen...not!
Hey Bishop...yes we are stewards of the earth, and greed is a sin, but to believe that we can destroy what God has created is, well, un-Biblical.


17 posted on 12/25/2007 7:11:48 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Zakeet

From the same apostate who said Anglicans need not believe in Virgin Birth.

IMO, he should find a different religion. Christianity isn’t working out for his agenda.


19 posted on 12/25/2007 7:26:34 AM PST by madison10
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To: Zakeet

Do they call this guy “Doc?”


20 posted on 12/25/2007 7:26:43 AM PST by stevem
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To: Zakeet

Is there no end to this Lunatic’s idiocy?


21 posted on 12/25/2007 7:27:53 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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Doctor Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, slammed "human greed" in his Christmas sermon,

I'm sure this will go over well among his tens of millions of followers in the Global South, where concern with survival is a real, personal, day-to-day issue and not a genteel parlor-game abstraction.

22 posted on 12/25/2007 7:30:02 AM PST by underdognewsgrl ("As many soaring voices, forever changed by Your mercy. It was beautiful." RIP Five Iron Frenzy)
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Someone needs to tell this little gnome that greed (as in those of odd, quaint, and deviant sexual persuasions wanting what they want and wanting it now!!) not only could but is wrecking the Anglican Communion.


26 posted on 12/25/2007 7:58:37 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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