Abortion is murder, but… [It's all about me!]

YNet ^ | Dec. 25, 2007 | Yael Mishaeli

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I find it interesting that despite the headline, in the article she does not actually come right out and say “abortion IS murder.” Instead she only allows that it is a “TYPE of murder.”

Abortionists will NEVER acknowledge that ALL abortion is the taking of innocent human life and therefore murder.

At their core, you will always find the eugenicist attitude that some lives are "more worthy" of living than others. The culture of death will always push this view, though sometimes more blatantly than others. The Nazis were very open in their belief that the Jews, Gypsies and other groups did not deserve life, Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood targeted the poor and minorities, the enviornmentalists/global warming alarmists believe that only the elites deserve full access to the world's resources. And, a woman going into the abortuary has decided that her "life" is worth more than her unborn child's, though by life she generally means her imagined "right" to not be inconvenienced by the consequences of her own decisions.

[Mrs. Don-o]

"In sterner traditional societies these kind of “births” were left to die."

Oh yes, sterner traditional societies had lots of infanticide. They also practiced marriage by bride-abduction, trial by ordeal, and civic building projects via mass slavery. They lacked such concepts as "human rights" and "human dignity."

But this is not true of Judaism --- not even "stern traditional" Bronze-age tribal Judaism --- nor of Christianity.

BTW, why do you put the word "births" in quotes? Are babies born with medical problems not human? And are they not "born"?

A dismissive attitude toward handicapped babies calls into question, not their humanity, but our own.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

Why must killing be the only choice?

Because decades of the pro murder lobby pushing the only "Choice" is abortion has seeped into the public consciousness. It's exactly where they wanted it, the first thought when someone faces an unwanted pregnancy is who will cut this thing out of me and what will it cost?

Nine months of discomfort is a small price to pay to keep the blood of an innocent off your hands, but some people would rather soak themselves in rivers of blood rather than lose a moment of empty self indulgence.

[netmilsmom]

>>This kind of abortion is OK with me but should be done ASAP. <<

The test done for Spina Bifida is called a triple check. It is done at 13 weeks.

A positive for a neuro-tubal disease can indicate something as simple as a curvature of the spine, that does not debilitate at all to anencephaly, a child with an undeveloped brain.

At the time of a triple check, one is already over a first trimester abortion. Taking your reasoning, a positive for a neuro-tubal means abortion. Lots of perfectly healthy babies would be aborted. How soon is soon enough for you?

And have you noticed? America is far from having limited resources.

[Tax-chick]

Excellent points.

[Scotswife]

” Generally speaking, when a mother of five, or three, or two feels that this pregnancy is exhausting her and the only thing she can see in the future is growing mental (or financial) distress, I completely agree that it would be better to terminate the pregnancy and rehabilitate the soul before any future pregnancy. “

Wow.
If had this mentality I would have aborted my last four children.
After all...the little buggers make me tired! I’ve been tired for years!

[fromscratchmom]

Dennisw said “Not when the fetus is older and viable. In sterner traditional societies these kind of “births” were left to die. This kind of abandonment of non viables has gone on forever especially when a tribe or family has limited resources.”

Your use of the word ‘viable’ is misguided at best. You do not know what would have happened with any of those births had the lives not been snuffed out too early. The best way to judge that is to look at people who have these afflictions who did live, many of which are more than ‘viable’ human beings.

You reference to the concept of harsher societies that have abandoned sickly infants is really no better. We are not such a society and we would not be improved by becoming one. And even saying that much is giving in to your first mistake rather than pointing out that many innocents who have been murdered because of the lie of ‘viability’ may very well have done far better than was predicted by a the humanist element of our society.

This reminds me of an ongoing frustration I’ve had with reading on freerepublic that many people here like to make a huge disticntion between being socially conservative vs. being economically conservative. I cannot agree with those ‘social conservatives’ who are willing to mess up with liberal economics nor with those ‘economic conservatives’ who are willing to go the Marxist route with things like abortion/euthanisia arguments.

We all share a common enemy. And that enemy is Marxism. What we need to do is realize that Marxism can win on either front and then just take over on the other. If you give them one, you might as well just give up all together.

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"Abortion is a type of murder; I have no doubt about that. ... and declare that I am in favor of abortions."

Great. Evil incarnate.

[Alouette]

Just put me in a room with Yael Mishali for 5 minutes.

My, my 9 kids, and my 19 grandkids.

[Scotswife]

LOL!

I love the part where women are supposed to restore their soul by having an abortion.

There are many women out there claiming the abortions ate away at their souls and they never got over it.

Telling women abortion is the answer to continue on with a pleasant life is telling them a lie.

[fromscratchmom]

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[joebuck]

This was almost impossible to believe then I remembered Israel does have a history of child sacrifice.

[Alouette]

“Every two years I had a baby, I was tormented with worries as everyone is with a little house full of children, G-d be with them! and I thought myself more heavily burdened than anyone else in the world and that no one suffered from their children as much as I. Little I knew, poor fool, how fortunate I was when I seated my children ‘like olive plants round about my table.’” -- Glückel of Hameln, 17th Century Jewish woman

[Das Outsider]

Abortionists will NEVER acknowledge that ALL abortion is the taking of innocent human life and therefore murder.

It's a type of homicide, to be accurate. That is, murder. The slogan "abortion is murder" is not an inaccurate one, as there is such a thing as second- and third-degree murders.

It is murder nonetheless.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

FSM Said: “I cannot agree with those ‘social conservatives’ who are willing to mess up with liberal economics nor with those ‘economic conservatives’ who are willing to go the Marxist route with things like abortion/euthanasia arguments.”

Diana says:

The Naked Communist by Cleon Skoussen, former FBI Agent, 1958. (This information is also contained in the Congressional Record for 1963.)

#10 - Capture one or BOTH of the political parties in the USA.

They’ve got one and they’re seriously gaining ground in the other. It’s maddening!

Forest. Trees. Cut a few down and see clearly, Freepers!

[wagglebee]

Voluntary abortion is, in ALL cases, deliberate and premeditated, which are both critical elements of first degree murder.

[Das Outsider]

Voluntary abortion is, in ALL cases, deliberate and premeditated, which are both critical elements of first degree murder.

A woman who honestly believes that she is merely undergoing a uterine evacuation to terminate an early pregnancy is not the same as one who wants to kill a child for the sake of convenience. The end result is the same, don't get me wrong, but ignorance is a factor. It is, in my opinion, why many women, ignorant of the procedure, experience a great deal of guilt after having an abortion. The medical facilitators, however, have full knowledge of what they're doing and deserve prosecution to the fullest extent.

Young women who are deceived into having abortions--believing what Planned Parenthood told them--are victims as well. Let's not forget that.

[Tabi Katz]

I thank God that this woman was not my mother.

I had the exact same thought. God help her daughter should she ever become disabled.

[17th Miss Regt]

Abortion is a type of murder;...And still, as a woman and a mother, I must...declare that I am in favor of abortions.

So she is in favor of murder. Nice lady.