Posted on 12/26/2007 12:14:06 PM PST by lady lawyer
Can anybody confirm that you can die from an overdose of ecstasy days after taking too much?
This doesn't sound right to me. Usually, OD's kill people pretty quick.
I am amazed at how many lack integrity, honor and loyalty.
Many who will do withour discernment listen to gossip and be among those who take delight in trying to destroy anothers right.
‘if’ by rudyard kipling
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master,
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ‘em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: “Hold on!”
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And - which is more - you’ll be a Man, my son!
Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)
Press Forward Mitt!
Newsmax RAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
Petronski...what? You haven't heard that to be deemed a temple "worthy" Mormon, you have to tithe! (If you don't, then you get no temple recommend; no temple recommend = no reach of eternal progression or eligibility for "exaltation"--godhood...this is equivalent to your boss telling you that you won't be eligible for advancement within the company unless you give 10% of your income to the United Way
c) Separation or isolation from friends and family who are “outside” the group...c) Never heard of Mormons doing this.
Friends & family who'd like to be present for two temple Mormons being married in the temple aren't allowed...friends & family are isolated from them for this ceremony.
d) Difficulty or resistance in leaving or “getting out.”..d) As far as I know, Mormons can leave whenever they want, though few seem to want to leave. They’re a happy, successful, patriotic lot—as far as one can say such a thing about an entire group.
I think other FReepers who I've pinged have & can speak to this better than many of us.
Did you do your 'research' with Dan Brown? Brown, author of the DaVinci Code, writes the same anti-Christian and historical fallacies about the inception of the Nicene Creed.
Why not admit that dissing the Nicene Creed is not your own 'research', it is Mormon church doctrine. I know this for a fact because I heard the same argument from my daughter who was LDS for 8 years. I also attended with her at times and read Mormon materials.
So when you decry anti-Mormonism by other posters, think what you are saying about their beliefs and mine.
When her family was LDS, my granddaughter told me she was a member of the only true church. This belief is plainly stated in testimonies I have heard given in the LDS church. This exclusionary doctrine is not often admitted publicly to non-Mormons. The basis for this is an LDS cornerstone that every Christian church is apostate.
The 'true Christ' is found in the canon of Scripture which needs no further additions either from LDS or from Dan Brown.
My dad gave me the “IF” poem on a card, the day I graduated from high school. I still have it.
It is has always inspired me, though, sometimes very difficult to live up to.
Thanks for posting it.
If anyone can smell a rat on this issue it’s Tancredo!
The GOP tickee will likely be Romney with someone conservative from the South. The FReepers will stay home, but that won’t matter much, because many other Pubbies will also, and Osama or Hitlery will take it. That’s my pessimistic prediction. Cain’t run a liberal against a Communist and expect to win!
We are more optimittstic! :^)
Romney on abortion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elx3UWmyAY4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4
Romney’s for Brady Bill and “assault weapon” ban.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=5pcDA9sZES0
but he’s all for the second amendment.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ6-ySOUnrY&feature=related
Who's depicting a caricature? It certainly looks like this NewsMax writer is doing exactly that...:
While he has always been personally pro-life, like Ronald Reagan, he is a convert to the pro-life position when it comes to public policy. But as governor, Romney took pro-life stands, vetoing bills that authorized embryo farming, therapeutic cloning, and access to emergency contraception without parental consent.
So this means someone can be "personally anti-slavery" but then simultaneously be publicly pro-slavery?" As for Romney taking pro-life "stands" during his MA gubernatorial years, would this be like tiptoeing thru the Clinton admin years & finding a few places where somebody could "bookmark" Clinton's few "pro-family" stands? (Clinton, for example, was against same-sex marriage)
Romney's real pro-life track records is as follows:
(1): Romney comes from a heritage that is primarily pro-life. = He says flipped from a Mormon pro-life perspective when he sided with his mom when she ran as a pro-abortion senator in 1970.
(2): But then we learn he's supposedly been "pro-life" all along: "'He's been a pro-life Mormon faking it as a pro-choice friendly,'" Romney adviser Michael Murphy told the conservative National Review last year>, says the Concord Monitor in a previous article to the one that's being posted. (Source: http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061210/REPOSITORY/612100304/1217/NEWS98) = So I guess that made him a below-the-radar "flip" acting like a "flop?"
(3): 1994 campaign in Massachusetts: "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country." = Mitt the flipster from what most LDS represent
(4): Fast forward to 2001, when Romney needs to reassure Utah Mormons that...he's not really "pro-choice," after all: "I do not wish to be labeled pro-choice." (Mitt Romney, Letter to the Editor, The Salt Lake Tribune, 7/12/01) = So he doesn't want to be known as a "flop" (so what is he?)
(5): But by 2002, guess what? He was pro-abortion again! "I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose. This choice is a deeply personal one … Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the government's." (Stephanie Ebbert, "Clarity Sought On Romney's Abortion Stance," The Boston Globe, 7/3/05) = Ah, back securely in the "flop" saddle again?
(6): In November of '04, he & his wife had simultaneous pro-life "conversions" where he links it to stem cell research = (So the pro-abortion-but-no-pro-choice-label-please-is-now-a-pro-life-convert? )
(7): On May 27 '05, he affirms his commitment to being "pro-choice" at a press conference. ("I am absolutely committed to my promise to maintain the status quo with regards to laws relating to abortion and choice.") = OK, this is at least a flop from November '04!
(8): What about his gubernatorial record 2003-2006? Mitt NOW says his actions were ALL pro-life. So I assume somewhere in 2005 or so were so pro-life decisions. ("As governor, I’ve had several pieces of legislation reach my desk, which would have expanded abortion rights in Massachusetts. Each of those I vetoed. Every action I’ve taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life, I have stood on the side of life.") = So, then THESE ACTIONS were not only a reversal of his 2002 commitment, but his May 27, 2005 press conference commitment. So "flipping" is beginning to be routine
(9): April 12, 2006--Mitt signs his "Commonwealth Care" into existence, thereby expanding abortion access for poor women. (Wait a minute, I thought he told us post-'06 that ALL of his actions were "pro-life?"). Also, not only this, but as governor, Romney could exercise veto power to portions of Commonwealth Care. Did Romney exercise this power? (Yes, he vetoed Sections 5, 27, 29, 47, 112, 113, 134 & 137). What prominent section dealing with Planned Parenthood as part of the "payment policy advisory board" did Romney choose NOT to veto? (Section 3) That section mandates that one member of MassHealth Payment Policy Board must be appointed by Planned Parenthood League of MA. (See chapter 58 of the Acts of 2006, section 3 for details).
(10): On January 29, 2007 during a visit to South Carolina, Romney stated: “Over the last multiple years, as you know, I have been effectively pro-choice." (Bruce Smith, "Romney Campaigns in SC with Sen. DeMint," The Associated Press, 1/29/07) = OK how could "every action I've taken as the governor that relates to the sanctity of human life..." AND this statement BOTH be true?
(11): Another South Carolina campaign stop has Romney uttering that "I was always for life”: "I am firmly pro-life… I was always for life." (Jim Davenport, "Romney Affirms Opposition to Abortion," The Associated Press, 2/9/2007) = Oh, of course as the above shows, he's always been pro-life!
(12) " I never said I was pro-choice, but my position was effectively pro-choice." Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate 8/5/2007 = OK...looking at the 1994 & 2002 campaigns, how could he say he "never said" he was "pro-choice?"
(13): Then comes his 8/12/07 interview with Chris Wallace of Fox: "I never called myself pro-choice. I never allowed myself to use the word pro-choice because I didn't FEEL I was pro-choice. I would protect the law, I said, as it was, but I wasn't pro-choice, and so..." = That whatever he was from 1970 when his mom ran as a pro-abortion senator & he sided with her, to 5/27/05, w/whatever interruption he had due to a pro-life altar call in Nov of '04, whatever that was...well, he assures us it wasn't a pro-abortion inlook or outlook 'cause he didn't feel "pro-choice..." = So does that make him a life-long pro-lifer?
LOL! Well said.
Well, sorry, but with me it's country first then God...if it weren't that way there would be no God to worship because we probably would be bowing to whomever was the emperor of Japan and the fuhrer of the successive Reich by now and there would be no religious freedom. Mitt's father, George, was an extremely liberal and vocal critic of Vietnam; claiming that generals such as William Westmoreland had "brainwashed" him in his early support of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. And, if he ever marched with MLK by proxy and spirit, he also most assuredly marched with the likes of Jane Fonda, John Kerry, and Benjamin Spock.
I realize that you are a strong Mittwitt, but you will never be able to convince me that Mittens wasn't also an anti-warrior during those times and was mighty glad he was yucking it up in Paris while other Mormons his age were either dying or sweating it out in the humid jungles of Nam.
So now simply quoting prominent Mormon doctrine = "bigotry?" (much of LDS thought centers around the so-called "pre-existence" & the relationship between Heavenly Father & his literal spirit children, of whom Satan is one--the LDS "elder brother" of us all as is Jesus, who beat Lucifer to the spirit birth delivery room)
Does the true Christ need additions from the Council of Nicea? Apparently so.
As for the timing and the conduct of said council, that’s not Mormon “doctrine,” it’s historical fact.
Baloney!!!!!! So, not one person has any integrity on this site? That sure leaves you out! [MamaB]
MamaB, doncha know? You, too, could be on the Board for a motel/hotel sleazy in-room porn industry industry...of which their profits are considerable...like Romney was for a number years via Marriott & display your "little finger...integrity" like him?
We believe that God the Father is the spiritual father of us all. So in that sense, all are brothers, including Lucifer and Christ. BTW, if God didn’t create Lucifer, who did?
But Christ was the only begotten of the Father in the flesh. So, in that sense, Christ has no brothers. Huckabee’s “innocent” question is a gross distortion
The Institute for Religious Research (IRR) is an organization that researches religious organizations and points out where their doctrines and beliefs are in conflict with God’s Word. They do not focus on one religion and they are NOT an anti-Mormon site. Take a look at it and after reading some of the information see if you still think that the Mormon Church is not a cult.
http://www.irr.org/mit/Default.html
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