Incredible!
Posted on 12/28/2007 11:16:11 AM PST by Sub-Driver
This is the one time I will agree with Pelosi. This should have been brought up sooner.
This veto will screw up both military and DoD civilian pay, plus cause harm to the war effort. While it was being hammered out before Christmas, this issue should have been resolved. The dems were totally caving to the President anyway....why veto it now?
This is just poor planning on everyone’s part. Also, it makes us look stupid to have to cave to Iraqi demands. Seems to me we beat them. We should act like it.
War heroes v. U.S. on Iraq assets Tortured ex-POWs find they must sue Uncle Sam to collect damages from Saddam http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3070340/
Thanks for the links. Apparently, they were suing the US government to gain access to funds seized from Hussein. I can understand that.
Without knowing more about this "Section 1803" and how it strengthens the ability to sue I wonder why they picked this funding bill to insert it? Other than to draw a veto.
Bingo.
The lawyers plan to sue in the US courts for billions and will take the 30% contingency and donate 1/2 to the DNC.
This is about Dean making a money grab. The WH should have dealt with it sooner, but this will cause no particular problems in that the technical fix should be easy. Christmas is over, have Congress return Wednesday and revote on fixed language.
The Founders never wanted a line item veto...
“The Founders never wanted a line item veto...”
Of course they didn’t realize how complex the legislative process and tackons would become.
Whatever, a line item veto, I believe, is only used to remove an appropriation item. Someone please confirm or refute this.
Maybe NOT...but the separation of powers I think could be the issue here more than one might think.
Do you want the current Iraqi government to pay retributions for what Saddam regime did?
“Maybe NOT...but the separation of powers I think could be the issue here more than one might think.”
I love and respect my Commander-in-Chief President G.W. Bush. Someone on his staff dropped the ball and didn’t notice this line, or its implications, which the Iraqis did, after congress had recessed giving the president a great victory on his funding demands, but now forces more legislative wrangling which only hurts the troops and those that support them. Plus, it make President Bush look weak in light of caving to Iraqi demands.
Dumb and Dumber at it again. :)
http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jN_Relk5QlI0AbzedY43Lm_KT6yw
”The defence policy bill passed by veto-proof margins in the House and the Senate. Democratic aides said they have not ruled out any legislative options, including passing a technical correction or trying to override Bush's veto”.
Incredible!
I agree. This is a pretty strange thing to draw a line in the sand over...it ought to be possible to find a solution less drastic.
I’ve also read he plans to do it with a pocket veto, which would force the question on if the Senate is really in session or not. I would say obviously not, but I could see it going to the SCOTUS for resolution.
What is interesting is that when the Confederacy drew up its Constitution, it DID provide President Davis with a line item veto.
I believe you’re right re appropriation items.
Who is he going to ask?
It's a constitutional issue.
I know the Dims think it's a living breathing document, but not literally
Harry and Nancy need to meet at a motel restuarant to discuss what they might need to do to improve their manhood.
What might follow could be ( if documented ) useful for modern day psychiatry.
Did I spell that last word correctly?
see #19
” after congress had recessed”
Congress is not recessed. They are still is session to prevent any recess appointments.
“Congress is not recessed. They are still is session to prevent any recess appointments.”
That is a parlimentary tactic that only stops recess appointments - no legislation can be done. The congress will not trully be back in session until January 15th.
Of course, if the dem controlled congress had any integritty they would come back now and fix this. I would like to see the GOP members return to DC to set an example.
Don’t count on that happening.
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