"You can waste your whole life lusting, Jimmy. It's a lot more fun to do something about it."
Posted on 12/29/2007 7:32:16 AM PST by madprof98
Huckabee has surged because he won a couple of debates and he’s got evangelical support. If a quick rise can happen to the liberal pro-life evangelical Huckster, it can happen to the conservative pro-life evangelical Hunter.
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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts
Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
In this poll Hunter is up 3% and even with Paul and Thompson.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=3481ef60-8195-46a9-af04-b87b907bcfdd
"You can waste your whole life lusting, Jimmy. It's a lot more fun to do something about it."
What I do have a major problem with is religious candidates who believe that they are anointed to "do the lords work" through government. Christians are admonished to do PERSONAL good deeds. The problem with pseudo Leftists like Huckabee is that they see Leftist dogma (Government forcing us to do what they think is right) as a suitable substitute for Christian dogma (The individual makes a personal choice to do whats right).
The statements Huckabee has made regarding illegals, entitlements and many other issues tells me that he is just another Leftist who will do as Carter did - Bring their personal sense of guilt and responsibility to their office, and then expect us to accept them as virtuous, pure and noble.
Screw that.
NO MORE COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVES. EVER!
Reporters: If the preacher says he dropped 110 lbs. (and collected $400K), check it out.
I can not disagree with what you are saying. However, Hucks positioning in Iowa as many nuances that have meaning for me. Mind you, I do not support his policies because I simply don't know them but I would like to listen a litte more.
Let me give you my take why Hucks surge in Iowa matters to social-conservatives even if the politician does not have the perfect message for each of us.
After 12 years of Republican power... many people feel kind of empty with the results. Naturally many are looking for something else. So, whom do you believe this time around? The SAME SOURCES that has given us the same S*** in the past? or should we try a different approach?
One: Being a Duncan Hunter supporter I was amazed at the lack of support for him, here in FR, as well as nationally... So I am glad finally someone made it through that is not part of the establishment... I wish it would have been Hunter, but I am glad Huck did it. That is a HUGE accomplishment in itself.
Not only he broke through but guess who did it... The EVANGELICALS!... So here I am thinking if the EVANGELICALS can muster that much power by themselves... without real money... imagine what all SOCIAL-CONSERVATIVES, both religious and non-religious could achieve together... (salivating :)
Another hint: is not that social conservatives do not have the same principles as 'regular' conservatives do and by that I mean the group with your themes (Personal liberties, small government, state rights, guns, the constitution, etc)...BUT it was prettly clear from the beginning judgin by all the thousands of posts, that your group do not feel about 'values,' as many of us do, thus the 'social-conservatives religious and non-religious' designation. Let's not kid each other, we have a clear division here in FR in those two camps. Each group consistently and predictalby adhere to their themes over and over...
Now, it is true that for some of us, Values, Morality, (i.e. Abortion for many or the homosexual agenda for others is very important. For instance, it is important to me protecting the Military from the homosexual-agenda, who are counting the minutes to invade it and do the same number they did to the Catholic Church and the BOYS SCOUTS... If a soldier puts his life on the line for this country, we should at least protect them so they don't have to deal with all the issues the fags want to bring to the Military. They dream of applying all the social-engineering as they do with the teachers-Association today. They OWN IT so they can advance their agenda... see my point?... And very honesty I don't notice that concern from your side!
No hard feelings :) I am just giving you a hint WHY some us are not rushing to crucify Huck as many seem to want to do here... very quickly!
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals."
Thats exactly what he did as Governor of Arkansas. He even forced everyone to convert to southern baptislam./s
I share your sentiments. Frankly, I posted this because I have the same generally positive impression of Huckabee that Rod Dreher has. I sense that he shares the values I consider most important. I don’t believe that of any other leading contender—certainly not Giuliani (for whom I would never vote) or McCain and not Romney either. Huckabee seems like a person who has a clear sense of right vs. wrong.
Hello, well I have listened to him twice. Yesterday on CSPAN an today in Bill Russel' Meet the press and I am still favorably impressed. No, I am not ready to vote for him since I support Hunter, but I am willing to listen because of the things you mentioned and because Hunter does seem to be getting any traction. I look at the core values of a person, the foundation if you will of what a "President" could be.
But it does surprise me the FEAR he generates on the part of our "real" conservatives here if FR! :)... it's something to see! LOL
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