"What's all this I hear about Mormons and macaroni?
Oh...nevermind."
Posted on 12/29/2007 8:34:35 AM PST by greyfoxx39
“everything I learn about my faith makes me stronger in it.
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The problem here is that you have not bothered to learn about your faith in places other than the standard safe places ordered by your leaders. I guess you just are happy being told what to do.
Fine, but you were still mistaken. The “Adam-God theory” is not advanced in the King Follet sermon. Nor is it advanced anywhere besides in the single, isolated quote by Young. It is not LDS doctrine.
As for the red herring you’ve tossed out, LDS theology holds that we are like God, albeit in embryonic form. In the sense that we have within us the potential to become as He is, we are co-equal, just as your son is co-equal to you and has the potential to develop and grow to become as you are.
Don’t like that theology? That’s fine.
“The problem here is that you have not bothered to learn about your faith in places other than the standard safe places ordered by your leaders.”
Christopher Hitchens hates all of us and believes all of us are equally deceived. You are in good company.
Qué?
National numbers don’t matter a whit at this moment, and you know it. IA is the epicenter. There, Huckabee has leveraged religion to try and beat Romney, from the malicious Satan-and-Jesus-being-brothers question (and don’t try to tell me that was an accident, coming from a Baptist minister) to the harmless cross-over-his-shoulder Christmas commercial. It irks me, but there you have it. We’ll see if the social conservatives in Iowa fall for it.
"What's all this I hear about Mormons and macaroni?
Oh...nevermind."
~”You are saying that “advocacy” is a problem, but I don’t see you making the same criticisms of your Romney supporter friends....”~
That’s because my Romney supporter friends aren’t drowning everything out with fanboyism.
~”The problem here is that you have not bothered to learn about your faith in places other than the standard safe places ordered by your leaders.”~
Try me.
Why have you turned this around? You're the one who's seemingly wanting to sideline this national conversation whenever possible to the "religion" section. (Some kind of segregated separate but equal convo, eh?) I think an open discussion is time well spent, whereas you label it as some "hobby" equivalent of a "train set."
Defense of Mormonism is only a political matter when the anti-Mormons use Mormonism to attack Romney.
OK, this statement had to make me seriously chuckle. You frame this as a "defensive" mindset only. (Maybe that's your mindset, but I don't think you represent the LDS PR professionals & others). I could almost guarantee you that the LDS PR budget would skyrocket with a Mormon in the White House. Romney is the LDS HQ ticket to mainstream acceptance. They see an "offensive" that's never been there before, because they know they can play the victim card & have their grassroots call out "bigot" @ every turn where Mormonism is opposed.
And this "offensive" is already underway direct from both SLC & wherever LDS are accessing online forums.
If they judged his candidacy on the merits, we’d all be singing Kum-Bay-Yah.
If you go to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1945204/posts?q=1&;page=94#94 & click on posts 76, 77, 80 & 81, you'll see there's no shared merits accumulated in Romney's track record. Yes, LDS & Christians share many values. Romney's track record leaves him too untrustworthy to count upon.
“from the malicious Satan-and-Jesus-being-brothers question (and don’t try to tell me that was an accident, coming from a Baptist minister) to the harmless cross-over-his-shoulder Christmas commercial”
Good thing he didn’t say anything about rocks in a hat or Myth would really be in trouble!
I don’t have those. All I have is faith, study, and prayer. It works for me.
LOL, WHAT A HOOT!....Every mitt thread is decorated with smitten female mittbots raving about his wonderful HAIR, his GOOD LOOKS, his SMILE....I guess you could call it "fanGIRLism" in that case.
Start here:
http://www.globusz.com/ebooks/Mormons/00000010.htm
Read Book I and get back to me. It’s a semi-contemporary account. I doubt you will take the time to bother as it’s not from JeffLindsay, or FAIR, or BYU, or LDS.org.
[So Hell is reserved for a rather exclusive group of sinners, not the garden variety who just go through life flipping God off?]
Yes. Some people are more demon than human and would probably be more comfortable in Hell. The “garden variety” are errant children like the Prodigal Son.
~”Romney is the LDS HQ ticket to mainstream acceptance.”~
Once again, we come to it. Without discussing the merits of the assertion, that’s what really bothers you. Mormons bother you so much that you’ll do anything to see to it that we aren’t offered the privilege of mainstream acceptance.
Where’s your faith in God? If we are wrong, we will fail along with every other false doctrine. Why is the mainstreaming of Mormonism such a problem, if it’s in opposition to God? Doesn’t He have the power to defeat the false? That’s why I leave your religion alone.
~”...you’ll see there’s no shared merits accumulated in Romney’s track record.”~
Then why do you expend so much energy attacking his religion, if attacking his record is so much more effective?
Hold the phone! Mitt has great hair and he’s good looking but that’s sure as heck not why I support him!! That was an insulting thing to say.
Mitt Romney has a great family, a great record, he is Reaganesque, and he is a man of character and conviction. He saved the Olympics from scandal and doom. He has a stellar record in the private sector as a savvy businessman. His record as gov is sound and pro-life.
What’s not to love, I wonder.
There might be some fanboyism in Mitt’s good looks, too.
(don’t look now, but I think I might have aroused the ire of the homophobes)
You keep harping about rocks and hats. Are you trying to get a rise out of me? It isn’t working.
Certainly Hitler and company are extreme examples.
What about the garden variety murderer? Rapist?
What about the Enron executive who swindled the nice little lady down the street out of her nest egg?
LOL, any day I can return one of YOUR insults to ME, is a good day.
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