Put them to paying the cost of their incarceration.
Posted on 12/29/2007 10:07:04 AM PST by thestob
He is at the heart of a great culture war in Texas – and the nation, credited with bringing us prosperity and blamed for abusing our resources. How should we deal with this stranger among us?
(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...
Deprot his / her SORRY A$$
Send him back and make him follow the law if he wants to come here.
The 19 (sob) from 9/11 were (whimper) all of those things — and so much more.
My niece is an OB/GYN who took her pre-med at HAAAAVVAAAAADDD! Needless to say, she emerged from that experience a FLAMING, BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL.
Upon completing her medical training at yet another liberal university, she interned at a hospital near the border in San Diego.
It was there that a mystical transformation took place: She began to connect the heavy deductions from the GROSS EARNINGS for which she busted her butt for as many as 72 virtually sleepless hours in a row with the taxis and jalopies regularly sliding to the curb in front of the ER.
Many of them contained pregnant illegals who won the race to deliver their babies HERE. She caught many of those babies who, under the current — and ERRONEOUS — interpretation of the 14th Amendment were IMMEDIATELY NEW AMERICANS. The mother – who, obviously, could not care for the child if she were back in her native land — could not be deported now even if the INS and the political bosses WANTED her deported . And as the mother of a new US citizen, the woman could remain here for about as long as she cared to – and that was usually for life.
Most of those patients were welfare recipients and the deliveries were charity cases: The bill for the hospital’s – and HER services – were routinely spread over the bills of those who DO pay. And what the other users of those facilities don’t cover went back to the taxpayers.
And since my niece was now a taxpayer, they were costing HER.
And while she may not exactly be a libertarian, today she’s now a LOOONNNNG way from Haaaavaaaaaad.
And just so the bleeders who might see this don’t think me some sort of ethnocentric bigot, I submit this problem is MORE than just about illegals.
Before my oldest daughter was born at University Hospital in Cleveland in 1967, I sat in the main lobby as welfare mother-to-be after welfare mother-to-be shuffled through the door to the maternity ER for THEIR free deliveries.
Before WE could take OUR daughter home, I had to cough up over 3 grand. And that was a great deal of dough in 1967, especially for a guy just out of the USAF.
As I wrote the check, I remembered the magazine article I’d recently read by a hospital administrator from Massachusetts who admitted that all US hospitals practiced a form of medical Marxism, spreading the costs of care for indigents over the bills of those who DO pay for care. Given the move to socialism here, it probably will never be otherwise: Not counting Byzantine complexity and confusion, government produces – and has — NOTHING unless it first takes it from some PERSON. SOMEBODY ALWAYS PAYS.
Look, I have a big enough problem paying for the 3rd and 4th generation slackers and welfare bums who were BORN here.
It’s time we stopped paying for those who were not.
What a steaming load! I noticed no one at DaMN is putting THEIR name on this vomit.
Damn, lookit all those Anglos /sarc
Your collection has: (1) a bunch of interesting "pure" Americans, (2)some people with "foreign" names who are stated to be "Americans" and (3)others of other nationality, who may be legal or illegal. How is this supposed to impact policy or attitudes?
We had lots of notorious Italian, Irish, Jewish, German, (and "original english stock") criminals throughout our history. The real question is how to get useful good ones and keep out the most bad ones -- just as it has been throughout our history.
But just running pix of some "furriner-looking" criminals (mixed in with some who are not) doesn't seem to advance the argument much.
The Dallas Morning News ...
disgusting NYT wannabe clone.
I may be wrong, but I think you’ve posted this before and I love reading it every time :)
2007 DMN Texan of the Year: Finalists
12:00 PM CST on Saturday, December 29, 2007
Garrett Boone
The co-founder of the Container Store had nothing to gain by taking on TXU’s plans for 13 new coal plants. But he knew that pollution comes at a price and helped form Texas Business for Clean Air.
Cathy Bonner
Moved by cancer’s deadly touch, she was determined to do something about it. She led an effort to create the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute and then lobbied for funding, which came when voters agreed to provide $3 billion.
Alberto Gonzales
The only thing more spectacular than his rise to attorney general was his incredible fall. He led the Justice Department down a blatantly political path and made an indelible impact – but not one to be proud of.
Robert Gates
In him, we now have a defense secretary who not only expects scrutiny but welcomes it. His contribution to a more cooperative strategy in Iraq and rational thinking in Washington have made a huge difference here and abroad.
Craig Watkins
Texas’ first black district attorney has brought bold ideas and an innovative approach to the job. He has made a national name for himself by ensuring that innocent men walk free and that Dallas County’s career criminals are locked up.
Jerry Jones
There’s the knockout Cowboys team he manages, the new stadium he’s overseeing, the Super Bowl he helped bring to the region. You may not be able to afford tickets to see his events, but you can’t deny his impact.
Sharon Keller
Presiding judge of the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, she denied a request by attorneys trying to file a last-minute appeal of a death row inmate, saying “We close at 5.” With those four callous words, she made a caricature of Texas justice.
Carol Wise
She and her team of researchers at Texas Scottish Rite Hospital for Children found the first gene linked to scoliosis, capping a decade’s worth of lab work, interviews and painstaking analysis and opening the door to better treatment.
Bill Mullican
Texas’ top water planner is an expert at explaining the intricacies of drought preparation in a way that brings about results in Austin and Washington. A new plan requires vigilance, but thanks to him we have a road map.
Instead the DaMN declares the criminal illegal alien border and immigration law felons to be “Texan of the Year.”
There is not a single marble left in their collective bag.
I noticed that also. Any Texans that want to lead the way & contact ALL advertisers. Best yet never buy this rag.
I worked foreign prosecution homicide cases in Mexico for thirteen years. I found that about half of the people that committed homicides over here had warrants for their arrest in Mexico. Often for homicide. Many would flee to a border town like Tijuana so they could jump across the border if things got too hot. A large percentage of the homicides were drug related and committed against other illegal aliens.
You mean they couldn’t find one iddy biddy real citizen of the US that really does something admirable?
The author of this article is a coward for not attaching his/her name to this disgusting article.
I searched the entire article. Nowhere was there mention of:
gangs
drugs
drunk driving
Identity theft
murders
child molestations
robberies
rapes
Emergency Room/hospital closures
over crowded schools
depeletion of our Social Service System
the billions of dollars wired to Mexico every year
the trashing of our land
the defiant attitude towards citizens
FLEEING any possible confrontation
The list goes own and own and own...............
Good thing Putin isn't a Texan.
Different day same old liberal butt kissing by the news media.
This piece needed a barf alert.
We are being over-run down here and nobody wants to do a thing about it, or if they do, they are reviled and castigated by others. When I came here almost 39 years ago, Dallas was a pretty nice place. Now I don’t go there for ANY reason. Illegals are everywhere. I don’t deny that we may need these people to work here but if that’s the case then let the LEGAL applicants come here, not just let thousands stream across our unprotected borders. If you break the law just to come here, why would you suddenly start obeying the law once you’re here? I see illegals all day long in my job. Can’t deny them services and they always pay with $100 bills. Yet they always claim to be paying taxes. I doubt it. They are being paid with cash under the table. That’s why they have $100 dollar bills lining their pockets.
I’m sick of it.
From the DaMN website...
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I also found this, it seems to be the Editor that ramrods the decision process...
Ask the Editor: Editorial Writer Rodger Jones
The editorial board’s choice for 2007 Texan of the Year – the Illegal Immigrant – surprised even me, and part of my job is playing midwife to the annual birthing process. It’s a choice worth debate and worthy of defense. Here’s how we got there.
12/19/2007
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/askeditor/stories/123007dnediasktheeditor.5e0fe976.html which contains the email link to George Rodrigue, managing editor of The Dallas Morning News. asktheeditor@dallasnews.com
I will see what I can find as far as the major DaMN advertisers.
Yes!
I would like to solve ... "2007 DAMN Texan of the Year"
“Good thing Putin isn’t a Texan.”
I kid you not, this is from Rodger Jones (Mgr Editor) comments on how they picked.
From his article...”Final thought, on the issue of composite picks: Just for grins, I took a look at Time magazine’s Person of the Year choices, from Lindbergh to Putin , since its annual feature began 80 years ago. “
You really can not make this stuff up...
Put them to paying the cost of their incarceration.
“We can’t seem to live with him and his family, and if we can live without him, nobody’s figured out how.”
How can you dispute that? It’s undeniable that no one has figured out how to keep him out.
Well, that question applies to our methods of sorting and handling legal immigration.
In one sense our problem of illegals is simpler. The individual qualities of these people are not relevant. All illegals should be deported and/or kept out. Period. It is way past time to stop accepting the sort of "noble savage" image being shoved up our petards by the open borders crowd.
I think that is what the FBI pictures are intended to illustrate. The left and the media are trying to paint a picture of criminal illegals as being as rare as unicorns.
So, it just looked like an effort to stir up inflamation, even if there is real data that would also do so!
The only person the illegal brings prosperity to is the employer who doesn’t want to play by the rules. I guess it also helps out those politicians and bureaucrats who need dependent clients to survive (as opposed to independent, thinking citizens). As for the rest of us, we pay the bill, both financially and culturally.
You're probably correct on that. We live in a visual world. Starving children in the current third world tragedy du jour. Pictures of [phony] exploding GMC pickups. Pathetic looking "undocumented worker's" children.
I think there are some pretty damning hard numbers on criminal illegals and crimes committed. But that requires thinking and reasoning. Which would explain why libs watch TV news with lots of film and very few facts.
I have — every time the topic comes up.
And thank you for the kind words.
Oh yes, my daugter and her 3 children were just in a non-injury accident caused by an amigo — who fled the scene! Their car is undrivable. No one got the SOBs tag number — not that it would matter.
THIS CRAP HAS TO STOP.
The war that is currently going on in this country (mostly over our right to continue to be a country, that makes Libs Soooo guilty) is being waged right now in the Liberal MSM, and they will have to be destroyed economically along with Hollywood if we are to stand a chance of defeating our external enemies.
The Republican candidate really needs to publicly put the MSM on notice that he considers the MSM to be in the opposing (DimocRAT) camp and will treat them as such. No more playing footsie with the media filth and trying to curry favor with them. They are the enemy and should be treated as such openly and with no excuses. Stop pretending that the MSM has any more noble intentions that those of gaining raw power and influence.
So did the DMN name General Santa Ana as Texan of the Year for 1836?
DMN supoorts people like the illegal immigrant who killed a Dallas Police Officer!!!!!!!!!
A friend of the Mexican immigrant arrested Sunday on suspicion of killing a Dallas police officer described him as a good person who becomes aggressive when he drinks.
Juan Lizcano had a few drinks Saturday evening at the 2001 nightclub on Stemmons Freeway, and later headed to the home of Marta Cruz, said Jose Fernandez, who accompanied Lizcano first to the club, then to the woman’s house on Sunday morning.
Dallas officer ‘died a hero’
Officer shot, killed in hunt for suspect
“When he’s sober, he’s a good person,” said Fernandez, who was questioned by police and then released. “I told him we should go home, but he wouldn’t listen. He was very angry when we returned to her house.”
Police said they responded early Sunday to a disturbance call at Cruz’s home on North Henderson and were told that Lizcano had threatened his ex-girlfriend and fired a handgun inside the house. He was gone by the time officers arrived.
About 45 minutes later, officers were notified that Lizcano had returned to the home. Officers pursued him on foot as the suspect jumped over fences and ran through yards toward Madera Street, police said.
Officer Brian Jackson died of a wound to his right underarm, near his protective vest, suffered in a gunfight on Madera Street in Old East Dallas.
Juan Lizcano Fernandez said he never imagined his friend was armed, and especially that he was capable of murder. He told police he didn’t see or hear anything, not even when Lizcano allegedly fired inside Cruz’s house, or when he returned and got into the gunbattle with Jackson.
These Police Officers Needed A ‘Day Without Immigrants’
By Dave Gibson (05/03/06)
Despite the false rhetoric spilling from the mouth of our internationalist president, not every illegal alien comes here simply to work. In fact, many Mexican invaders come here to cause mayhem in our streets. Illegal aliens account for 30 percent of the U.S. prison population. One effect illegals have on our nation which you will not hear reported by the leftist media is the murder of many U.S. police officers...However, you will hear it from me!
On Sept. 30, 1992, Oregon State Trooper Bret Clodfelter (age 34) stopped a suspected drunk driver who turned out to be an illegal alien named Francisco Manzo-Hernandez. The drunken driver was traveling with two of his fellow invaders. Trooper Clodfelter handcuffed the driver and placed him in the back seat of his cruiser.
As all of the men were drunk and the state trooper offered to drive the two passengers home. For his kindness, Clodfelter was shot in the head four times. All three illegals fled the scene and were captured a few days later.
Trooper Clodfelter served with the Oregon State Police for eight years and left behind a wife, son, and daughter. A further tragedy took place a year after the trooper’s murder. Rene, his grief-stricken wife of only one month took her own life.
On March 26, 1999, Phoenix Police Officer Marc Atkinson (age 28) was shot and killed by illegal alien Felipe Petrona-Cabana. Officer Anderson was ambushed by Cabana while on routine patrol. Cabana was traveling with two other illegal aliens and carrying a pound of cocaine. An armed citizen named Rory Vertigan witnessed the shooting and helped capture the Mexican outlaws.
Officer Atkinson served on the Phoenix Police Department for five years. He left behind a wife and an infant son.
On April 29, 2002, Los Angeles Sheriff’s Deputy David March (age 33) was shot to death by illegal alien Armondo Garcia. Invader Garcia told friends that he wanted to kill a police officer. Garcia saw Deputy March on patrol one evening and pulled over and waited for March to drive past him. As soon as March began to pass, Garcia opened fire. The Mexican national fled back across the border after murdering March.
For four years, the government of Mexico refused to apprehend or extradite Garcia. This past February, U.S. Customs officers arrested Garcia in Mexico. Unfortunately, cop-killer Garcia is still awaiting extradition back to the U.S.
Deputy March served with the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department for seven years and left behind a wife and stepdaughter.
On August 9, 2002, U.S. Park Ranger Kris Eggle (age 27) was killed by Mexican drug dealers while on duty in Arizona’s Oregon Pipe Cactus National Monument Park. Ranger Eggle was attempting to apprehend two Mexican drug dealers, after being notified by Mexican authorities that the two had crossed the border and were headed into the park. One of the drug dealers opened fire on Ranger Eggle with an AK-47. Eggle died before a medivac helicopter arrived on the scene. Mexican police officers shot and killed Eggle’s murderer.
U.S. Park Ranger Eggle left behind his grieving parents and his sister (also a U.S. Park Ranger).
On November 13, 2005, Dallas Police Officer Brian Jackson (age 28) was shot to death by illegal alien Juan Lizcano. Officer Jackson responded to a call from Lizcano’s ex-girlfriend. The illegal alien was threatening her and fired a gun inside her house. As Officer Jackson approached the house, Lizcano fled at which time Jackson gave chase. Lizcano eventually lay in wait and fired on the Dallas patrolman. Officer Jackson died one hour later at Baylor Medical Center.
Juan Lizcano had been arrested two months before murdering the police officer (once for threatening his girlfriend with a knife and again for a DUI). Lizcano had been living illegally in the United States for two years.
Officer Brian Jackson served on the Dallas Police Department for five years. He left behind a wife of only two months.
These are only a few of the stories of the human cost of illegal immigration. The next time you hear someone say “they are only here to work”...Remember these police officers who paid the ultimate price for so-called cheap labor.
Try actually clicking on the killers linked at the FBI site.
When it says “Nationality: Mexican,” etc. that means “ILLEGAL ALIEN.”
Count how many of these killers are not Americans, but are illegals, and get back to us.
Gracias in advance.
Then tell us that we don’t have enough American citizen killers, so we need to allow more to sneak in as illegals, to kill us.
1807: “But without black slaves, who will pick our cotton cheaply?”
1907: “But without child workers, who will weave our textiles cheaply?”
2007: “But without illegal aliens, who will mow our lawns cheaply?”
TLI, thanks for the links, below is a letter to editor from Tim O’Hare, Farmers Branch council member who led a successful voter referendum (later suspended by a state judge) to keep landlords from renting to illegal immigrants;
“We have thousands of homes where the values are under $200,000, and many of them under $150,000. You’ve got people who bought this home in 1956 or 1961, they were beautiful neighborhoods, well taken care of.
And now those same people who are widows, widowers or disabled, they can’t get out of that house, and they’re surrounded by homes with 10, 15 people living in them. There’s garbage laying outside in the yard, cockroaches running around, parties late at night.
These folks are sitting there, afraid to go out of their house. That’s a real problem for real people. The compassion [that elites] have seems completely one-sided and misplaced. ... It seems to me that you should first have compassion on people who are following the law and doing the right thing.
If we want to fight about HOW MANY illegal killers there are ( do you?), then we need some data, what the data base of these posters is (a lot of them are for crimes that go back 10-30 years!), etc.
Finally, you are probably right that many of the "Mexican" nationality listings are illegals, but they don't have to be. There are many "Mexican" legal residents. And we had a couple of spectacular murders in Virginia by "GErmans" who were legal students, workers, etc -- usually offing their girlfriends' parents.
Travis, we have women for those jobs.
Just ran across this story and was about to post. Some things are beyond belief, and for me this is one.
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