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The Pleasures of Assassination
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/13921/sec_id/13921 ^ | Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 12/30/2007 8:35:43 PM PST by ventanax5

When President Bush described the assassination of Benazir Bhutto as cowardly, he chose precisely the wrong word. (He was not the only person to do so, but he was the most important one to do so.) In fact, it was a very courageous act: for it requires great courage to assassinate someone in the middle of a large and volatile crowd favourable to that person, and above all then to blow yourself up just to make sure that you have succeeded. Not many people have that degree of courage: I certainly don’t.

The two Islamic militants whose telephone call was putatively intercepted by the Pakistani security services, and who are claimed by them to have been the organisers of the assassination, were quite right when they called the two men who did it ‘brave boys.’ They were brave all right; I do not see how it can very well be denied. Even if the transcript of the telephone call turns out to be a complete work of fiction, the authors of it got something right that President Bush got wrong

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anthonydaniels; bhutto; bushsfault; dalrymple; pakistan; theodoredalrymple
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To: ventanax5
It's a matter of conviction. Theirs islamist. Ours Judeo-Christian.
A secular system will gradually collapse to theirs.
21 posted on 12/30/2007 8:58:12 PM PST by onedoug
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To: ventanax5

We went round and round on this after 9/11.

We understandably object to referring to these guys as brave or courageous, since courage is considered a virtue and we dislike assigning any virtue to these guys.

Yet courage is defined as, “The state or quality of mind or spirit that enables one to face danger, fear, or vicissitudes with self-possession, confidence, and resolution; bravery.”

Nothing there about the rightness or wrongness of the cause in which courage is employed.

The Waffen SS was one of the most evil organizations in history. Nobody ever realistically denied their courage. The world would be a much less dangerous place if evil men were always cowards.

While there are some senses of the word “courage” that do not apply to these guys, the most common ones certainly do.


22 posted on 12/30/2007 8:59:11 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: ventanax5

suicide bombers are often on drugs.
no courage involved


23 posted on 12/30/2007 9:03:12 PM PST by patch789
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To: durasell

Agreed. All this form of attack requires is an acceptance that you are already dead. For a man that has nothing left to loose is then free to perform any atrocity, any savagery, any act to support his “cause”.


24 posted on 12/30/2007 9:03:14 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: ventanax5
The recourse to the word “cowardly” is another symptom of liberalism. Liberal politicians don’t want to call the perpetrators of these crimes “enemies” or “evil,” since liberalism prohibits the recognition of the existence of enemies and evil. So they call them “cowardly,” which makes the speaker sound tough and determined, when in fact he is only being absurd.

Excellent point.

Courage refers strictly to the attitude with which one faces a challenge. It makes no moral judgments about the challenge itself.

Evil men can be courageous, and good men can be cowards.

25 posted on 12/30/2007 9:04:35 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: ventanax5; Jim Robinson; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dalereed; Grampa Dave; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; ...
This is some of the most vexing, insipid puke I've ever seen in print in the English language in my 66 trips around the sun!!!

This is beyond human comprehension to attibute any possible redeeming social value to assassins and/or homocide bombers! The word assassin speaks for it'self in that it starts with two complete asses and reminds me of this coward loving writer!!!

26 posted on 12/30/2007 9:04:46 PM PST by SierraWasp (Too much religion mixed with politics just leads the participants into too much hate & discontent!!!)
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To: BenLurkin
Oh, I have an idea that Daylrymple is a harmless, bespectacled academic/English language analyzer with no agenda other than to stretch 500-word articles into 1500 words on what the meaning of "is" is....and in this case, bravery vs. cowardice.

After writing these dull essays, the old coot probably takes long walks in the woods with his walking stick, pipe and dog, wearing his tweed jacket with leather inserts in the elbows.

Leni

27 posted on 12/30/2007 9:05:20 PM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: Sherman Logan

I agree Auster makes an excellent point.


28 posted on 12/30/2007 9:06:11 PM PST by ventanax5
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To: taxcontrol
I wouldn’t underestimate the enemy, but at the same time I refuse to credit them with anything that could possibly be misconstrued as a moral justification for their actions.
29 posted on 12/30/2007 9:08:58 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: dr_lew

If you have something to live for, sacrificing yourself is a courageous act. If you have nothing to live for, or worse, you think you will get something better by dying, then killing yourself is selfish.

Bhutto had blood on her hands and $1.5 Billion dollars in the bank allegedly pilfered from the Pakistanis. Supposedly, the assassin missed and she killed herself while ducking for cover after foolishly exposing herself.

She was no saint, The assassin failed. Karma prevailed.


30 posted on 12/30/2007 9:10:21 PM PST by Soliton
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To: ventanax5

It ain’t courage or bravery, it’s indoctrination and brainwashing.


31 posted on 12/30/2007 9:10:35 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: ventanax5

Frankly, I think it’s irrelevant and immaterial to the MAX!!!


32 posted on 12/30/2007 9:13:57 PM PST by SierraWasp (Too much religion mixed with politics just leads the participants into too much hate & discontent!!!)
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To: MinuteGal
After writing these dull essays, the old coot probably takes long walks in the woods with his walking stick, pipe and dog, wearing his tweed jacket with leather inserts in the elbows.

Hey that's what I want to do when I retire!

33 posted on 12/30/2007 9:14:05 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: MinuteGal

http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/williamdalrymple

Willian may be a brother. ;))


34 posted on 12/30/2007 9:16:31 PM PST by BARLF
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To: Soliton
Bhutto had blood on her hands and $1.5 Billion dollars in the bank allegedly pilfered from the Pakistanis. Supposedly, the assassin missed and she killed herself while ducking for cover after foolishly exposing herself.

She was no saint, The assassin failed. Karma prevailed.
2 points.

First the Pakistani gov. didn't allow an autopsy. From what the coroner's said she had wounds consistent with a bullet.

Second this isn't a battle of good versus evil per se. It's between the secular and military powers of Pakistan. Neither of which are saints. The Pak military gambled that by engaging in a "decapitation operation" against Bhutto's PPP they could head off any challenges to their rule.

Now that Pakistan is descending into anarchy they don't look too smart. Time will tell.
35 posted on 12/30/2007 9:20:42 PM PST by ketsu
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To: durasell

I am there with you man....

Dictionary.com defines courage as:

the quality of mind or spirit that enables a person to face difficulty, danger, pain, etc., without fear; bravery.

When the tactic is to shoot a person, then press a button and have explosives rip you apart faster than your body can even recognize or register pain .... what courage is in that?

If you want me to believe the assassin had courage. Let him take his shots and then surrender to the crowd/authorities. Taking the bomb option is to specifically avoid pain, suffering, difficulty etc.


36 posted on 12/30/2007 9:22:08 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: ketsu
Now that Pakistan is descending into anarchy they don't look too smart. Time will tell.

We've had worse riots after a bowl games. There is no anarchy. There was no autopsy, and yet you quote a coroner. No one knows what happened, however, she was smiling and waving while standing through the sun roof, so presumably she chose to do it. Hubris killed her one way or another and she was a crook and a daughter of a crook. Good Riddance.

37 posted on 12/30/2007 9:31:50 PM PST by Soliton
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To: Sherman Logan
Exactly. Lots of folks here apparently missed this line in the article:

Courage in pursuit of a despicable goal is no virtue, quite the reverse in fact.

38 posted on 12/30/2007 9:41:34 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: ventanax5

That wasn’t courage; it was fanaticism.


39 posted on 12/30/2007 10:07:02 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: GATOR NAVY
In my view it was neither courage or depravity. No, it was pure greed. The thought of 72 virgins for eternity and adding a big atta boy from the local mullah (for the children), is what pushed these guys to blow themselves up.
40 posted on 12/30/2007 10:07:14 PM PST by Wingy
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