Posted on 12/31/2007 2:13:20 AM PST by Caipirabob
Re: Your post #16
Discipline is the patience and determination to see something through to its conclusion, not giving up because something “doesn’t fit,” or one gets frustrated (dreamers are a dime a dozen; what makes them great, though, is the tenacity to stay with their dream and bring it to realization). All the inquisitive thoughts in the world are useless unless they are taken hold of, studied, molded, developed and worked into something useful and productive. That takes discipline. Curiosity without the discipline to do something with it is farting in the wind.
Your comment about me taking a liking to foreign-born immigrants does not even dignify a response, as you obviously know absolutely zilch about me and my many, numerous posts in opposition to illegal immigration.
“We will give you the mono shock that will keep your gonads intact as you educated people give it to the Japs.”
Your obvious and bitter contempt for and dislike of someone with an education is glaring. Perhaps it is because for at least for four years of one’s life he or she had the discipline to stick with the process and get a degree. A degree that opened doors for them to develop and grow into something more than what they were before they took on the process. They didn’t quit.
I said in a previous post that dreamers without the discipline to make something of their dreams were a dime a dozen. Quitters are dreamers but without the imagination. Quitters are bottom feeders.
Ought-six, you are missing my point. Some of us have too much energy to sit behind a desk and listen to someone preach. We are the people that everyone else is trying to push Ritalin on. Because people cant concentrate in a structured class does not mean we are not intelligent. Im writing this as my little girl is running around in circles and singing with a little princess dress on. My wife, a structured person like you, Im sure, cant understand it.
The fact is that structured learning leaves a lot of us to learn outside the classroom. People that drop out of school and people that dont go on to hire education have enormous potential. A construction worker may become a developer. A computer hack may become your next Bill Gates. A roofer like the illegal alien in yesterdays article may become successful and hire 10s or 100s of people.
Gardeners, before the Mexicans came here, learned their trade. They knew which plants to put in the shade and which ones went in the sun. They knew you couldnt place dirt up against a tree trunk and they knew you couldnt put a driveway on top of an Oak Trees roots. My Mexican neighbor hasnt learned it even after being here for 30 years because he cant read.
Black Americans disproportionately drop out of school. Im old enough to remember when Black Americans had prominent jobs that they worked their way up to before the Mexicans came and took them away. Im old enough to remember black construction workers, Water and Power workers, Post office workers, Public Works workers, Auto Mechanics, plumbers, electricians, you name it. The illegal alien has taken all the entry level jobs. America used to be resilient and able to employ everyone before the illegal aliens invaded us.
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Hays is right.
If only.
Good video. Comes as no surprise to me that Ted Hayes had a Hispanic American standing beside him. We have a common ground, we are American.
You post is 100% correct. I have a lot of the mechanical and tear it apart and fix it smarts you describe. You have a lot lot more and I totally understand that lots of people like that (like you) can't sit still in classrooms for history lessons etc but have very high mechanical/engineering IQs
You and I are not surprised at the serious lack of real world "you fix it" abilities of a lot of people in universities and the highly paid professions
The fact of the matter is that working citizens are being victimized by illegal immigration. The poorer the worker, the more that worker is being victimized.
Never heard these types include the color "white" in their calls for unity, for some reason.
Yeah, it is an interesting article, but the title is strange. A more appropriate one would be “Ted Hayes doesn’t have very much credibility among blacks.”
***”When you align yourself with people who have been an anathema to civil rights, people scratch their heads. They say, ‘I may support your position but I see you standing with people who I know ain’t with me,’ “ Akili said.****
The conservative label is poison to African-Americans. Blacks are taught that the White racists were conservatives. Sadly, the modern Right does little to challenge that notion to African-Americans.
Yep. He should have labeled himself as a democrat. He might have got something accompolished then.
You make a good point here, but for the sake of argument, let's say that we got control of the borders. Everyone would be playing on a level playing field, wages would rise and the quality of individuals would also rise.
I don't buy into the notion that we need Mexicans to "do the work Americans won't do." Not every Mexican is this super worker. If that were the case Mexico would be a major power. What the federal government has done is set up a situation where the best Mexican workers come here to compete with the bottom of American society. If you cut off the supply of cheap labor the work would still need to be done and it would get done, the difference being that you'd have to offer wages and benefits that enable people to live a middle class lifestyle.
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