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To: CharlesWayneCT
who is pledging to lift the ban on weapons like machine guns

You lie when you say, ban on MG's. MG's can be bought and sold.

Whenever they complain that Romney supports a ban on “weapons of unusual lethality”, I’ve asked them whether their candidate is pushing to lift the ban on such weapons.

What is Mitt's definition of “weapons of unusual lethality”?

And now Romney pledges to do the same, which means that if there is no NEW AWB ban passed before he takes office, the 2nd amendment folks have NOTHING to worry about.

The simple fact is, if Mitt is POTUS and congress passes an AWB Mitt will sign it, he has no BALLS to veto it. Mitt has a proven record as Gov. of Mass.

64 posted on 01/01/2008 3:01:21 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: tiger-one
Actually, I don't lie, although you are correct that the details of the Machine Gun "ban" are more nuanced than a simple sound bite.

Of course, so were the "ban" on weapons in the AWB. For example, the AWB didn't ban the ownership of guns (requiring people to turn them in), it simply banned the new sale of such guns to civilians.

Anyway, here's some source material regarding the machine gun ban, so that people won't think I'm trying to "deceive" them. I've included enough quotes to show that as a general descriptive term, ban is accurate, but urge people who want to know the WHOLE truth to read the entire referenced article.

Full Auto Weapons:

It has been unlawful since 1934 (The National Firearms Act) for civilians to own machine guns without special permission from the U.S. Treasury Department.
If you need special permission to get a gun, it's not regularly available to the average person, and hence the average person is "banned" from owning it. Note this isn't just a ban on sale, it's a ban on ownership. At any time the ATF can revoke your special privilege and confiscate your weapon.

Since the Firearms Owners' Protection Act of May 19, 1986, ownership of newly manufactured machine guns has been prohibited to civilians.
If you want to own a machine gun, you can't own a new one if you are a civilian. You are banned from the purchase OR ownership of a machine gun built after 1986, regardless of whether you could finnagle some special permission to own the weapon.
Twenty-five states have no further restrictions on civilian ownership of machine guns (some require registration with the state) than what is required by federal law. Other states have either placed further restrictions or outlawed operable machine guns to civilians entirely. For further details see NRA state firearm law summaries.
Some states restrict this even further, and even ban the ownership regardless of whether ATF grants "special permission".

As someone else noted, even if you do manage to convince ATF that you need a machine gun, you also have to pay a special "gun tax" every year.

69 posted on 01/01/2008 8:10:18 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: tiger-one

In the posted article, Romney’s campaign says the weapons of unusual lethality are the types of weapons that are currently banned, I think he included things like grenade launchers.

He says he’s not looking to enact any NEW bans, and would only support weapons bans that were in effect at the time he took office.


70 posted on 01/01/2008 8:11:46 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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