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Neil Frank disputes 'questionable' storm counts
South Florida Sun-Sentinel ^ | 01/02/08 | Ken Kaye

Posted on 01/02/2008 4:49:28 AM PST by Moonman62

"They're questionable," said Frank, the hurricane center's director from 1974 to 1987 and now chief meteorologist for KHOU-TV, the CBS affiliate in Houston.

Though it might seem he is trying to upstage the hurricane center, his real intent, Frank said, is to dispute that global warming has led to more active Atlantic tropical storm seasons, as several meteorological studies have asserted. Over the past decade, Frank maintains, numerous systems were classified as tropical storms and hurricanes that probably didn't warrant that status.

Winnow out those systems from the annual lists, and present-day tropical weather may be no more intense than in the past, he says.

"The historical records are not adequate to determine if global warming has affected number and strength of tropical systems," he said.

The inflation in the number of named storms has come about, Frank says, because the hurricane center has adopted different — and, in his opinion, looser — guidelines on how storms are named.

Until the mid 1990s, the hurricane center relied on central barometric pressure as the primary yardstick of a storm's strength. The lower the pressure, the stronger a system. Storms with readings of 1005 millibars or higher were deemed too weak to be named, Frank said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarming
Looks like Neil Frank is a global warming denier (no wonder the left has declared the debate over). The article makes the point that the insurance industry is using storm counts to jack up rates without actually taking on additional risk.
1 posted on 01/02/2008 4:49:29 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Moonman62

And temperature data is inflated by poorly maintained weather stations and urban island effects. The global warming fear-mongering is a house of cards. Too bad the lies and exaggerations will not be exposed until it is too late.


2 posted on 01/02/2008 4:54:32 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Moonman62
Law of unintended consequences.
3 posted on 01/02/2008 4:54:37 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: NautiNurse

ping


4 posted on 01/02/2008 4:54:42 AM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Moonman62; xcamel

Well, if you don’t have major storms (the last two years) you have to count minor storms - if you’re going to keep increasing your funding.


5 posted on 01/02/2008 4:59:36 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: All

I guess the Globalist Whoring fascists wont be happy w Dr Frank


6 posted on 01/02/2008 5:02:06 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Duncan Hunter for President: Lets Build That Border Fence)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I bet he could make Heidi Cullen cry just by looking at her.


8 posted on 01/02/2008 5:04:45 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
Who knew, the NHC is faking the count by declaring non tropical storms tropical and other storms which don’t make the intensity levels, just over the line hurricanes. Like the hurricane which hit Texas just hours after being declared a hurricane to kick the counter ... it quickly died off, just like a tropical storm does.

The very real cost of all this nonsense is to scare off tourists, drive down property values, and drive up insurance costs. And to that end they have succeeded.

I am going to have manatee for breakfast, tastes just like chicken only bigger. Hey just kidding ... but it does.

9 posted on 01/02/2008 5:22:56 AM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: Moonman62

IIRC, were not two tropical storms upgraded to hurricanes this year after the fact? Just another adjustment designed bolster the theory that GW is causing more hurricanes. So if the data does not fit the theory they change the data so it does!


10 posted on 01/02/2008 5:23:26 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I don’t know if it’s intentional. They have so much technology now, and lots of free time to use it.


11 posted on 01/02/2008 5:27:21 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

Wonder if NOAA is in cohoots with the GW crowd?

Their *wayoff* predictions over the last couple of years just to keep us on edge? Trashing FEMA just to rub a little salt on the imaginary wound.


12 posted on 01/02/2008 5:29:51 AM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: Tarpon
Like the hurricane which hit Texas just hours after being declared a hurricane to kick the counter ... it quickly died off, just like a tropical storm does.

It probably was just a tropical storm. I have noticed in recent years that there seems to be lot of pressure to err on the side of caution just in case a storm intensifies rapidly, even though it's very rare for a storm to do that when it's near land.

13 posted on 01/02/2008 5:30:13 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
Nope, they are packing the numbers to feed the hysteria. There is no difference between a large tropical storm and a hurricane of minimum intensity except for the hysteria, and the increases in property insurance.

It’s all designed to feed the notion that glow-bulll warming causes more storms, which everyone with a brain says isn’t true.

Maybe the current snowstorm will touch water, we can then call it a late tropical storm :-) ... like they were doing with that Atlantic low pressure system just before Christmas, bumped the counter. This was just downright ridiculous pandering to the glow-bull warming worshipers.

It’s fodder to feed the lie, nothing more. It's going to make hurricane research much more difficult in out years, where storm counts are used as season indicators -- the higher they push the count the more it will look like the prophets of doom are right. This is driving the switch to Accumulated cyclone energy(ACE) in hurricane research, just to avoid the hysteria. 2007's ACE reading was off the charts, low.

The problem is with the storm track not the storm intensity. That’s what causes the lack of action, or overreaction in most people.

14 posted on 01/02/2008 5:40:22 AM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Law of unintended consequences.

Since the numbers are being inflated to support the whole idea of Global Warming Climate Change, I'd hardly call the consequences unintended.

15 posted on 01/02/2008 5:47:02 AM PST by Bob
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To: Moonman62

Sadly, Neil Frank recently retired from Channel 11 here in Houston. A very sound, reasoned individual who appeared to love the people he associated with.


16 posted on 01/02/2008 5:50:57 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

What I can’t believe is it’s been 20 years since he left the NHC. I was sorry to see him leave there.


17 posted on 01/02/2008 8:01:04 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Sadly, Neil Frank recently retired from Channel 11 here in Houston. A very sound, reasoned individual who appeared to love the people he associated with.

Neal is the consummate weather forecaster...he eats, drinks, and sleeps storms. It was 24/7 for him, back in 1975 (Hurricane Eloise) and 1985 (Elena and Kate). We had him on the air (in Panama City) via phone during Eloise, and via satellite for Elena and Kate in 1985. We had not been equipped for 2-way satellite prior to 1985.

After Neal, Bob Sheets did one heck of a good job...especially with Hurricane Opal.

* It was during the aftermath coverage of Opal that I saw live helicopter video of what was left of my apartment. What didn't get destroyed outright was destroyed by the salt water spray. I had been at the TV station the whole time (33 hours).

After Bob Sheets, Clinton appointed one of his 'people' to head the NHC. The guy was a total dud and had a horrible appearance on-camera. He either didn't have command of his facts, or had extreme camera fright. Either way, he came off very badly and it was decided that we shouldn't waste expensive satellite time for something that pitiful.

Then we got Jeb Bush for governor and from then on, it didn't matter who the big cheese at the NHC was, we had Jeb with his sleeves rolled up and keeping us up to date 27/7. I'm not so sure our new gov. has it in him. Hopefully we'll never need to find out.

18 posted on 01/02/2008 9:06:06 AM PST by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy
"Hot Air Cult"

~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ ping~~

19 posted on 01/02/2008 9:41:49 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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