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Huckabee: Gay Behavior a Choice
Outside the Beltway ^ | December 31, 2007

Posted on 01/02/2008 5:19:08 PM PST by Tlaloc

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To: Tlaloc
He watered down the sin of homosexuality to only “missing the mark”. I wont go into the many contrary sciptures, such as abomination etc etc.

On abortion...he was unsure if there should be any penalty to a Dr ? Was not sure if a Dr performing one should go to prison. I understand it could be political suicide to say otherwise, but if that`s the case why is he even running.

Yes for the record I am a sinner saved by grace.

He loses me when he Bush bashes and does his John McCain impersonation on the war mistakes. John and Mike would have run the war with out anybody dying.

21 posted on 01/02/2008 5:37:17 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (I HAVE REACHED THE POINT WHERE I CAN NOW SAY, ANYBODY BUT RUDY.)
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To: kjam22

He was quite dismissive of Russert on that; basically saying that science is clear that a new human life comes into being at conception. Russert was floored. IT was great.


22 posted on 01/02/2008 5:37:27 PM PST by sobieski
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To: Ingtar

True. I can remember not that long ago, when the Homosexual lobby argued that homosexuality was a choice, after all if it were a condition it could be “treated”. Remember the uproar when the scientist purported to have found the gay gene.


23 posted on 01/02/2008 5:38:45 PM PST by NavVet (If you don't defend conservatism in the Primary, you won't have it to defend in the Election)
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To: Tlaloc

Well, he’s on the right side of this issue—I think?—but he sure loses an opportunity to explain it. Notice how he turns his answer to the question into what amounts to a boast about his own faith:

“We may have certain tendencies, but how we behave and how we carry out our behavior–but the important issue that I want to address, because I think when you bring up the faith question, Tim, I’ve been asked more about my faith than any person running for president. I’m OK with that.”

So, he’s just about to explain the Christian position which differentiates between having certain “tendencies” and indulging in them when—bango—it’s all about me! That’s what I’d call a lost teaching opportunity, big time.


24 posted on 01/02/2008 5:38:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tlaloc
I have equal disdain for GAY RIGHTS AND MR. HUCKABEE.

They both "miss the mark", big time.

25 posted on 01/02/2008 5:39:55 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Your FR Pledge: Bookmark It Today! "I Won't Support Mitt/Rudy/McCain/Huckster in General Election")
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To: kjam22

“Yep... and he responds correctly... yet he gets slammed here for it.”

Nothing that Mike says will ever be seen in a positive light by the vast majority here on FR. I’ve learn to accept that and move on.

I can’t criticize them though, in that lately everytime someone posts something about Romney. I respond, and mean it, that it doesn’t matter what the man says, he is a mormon and I won’t vote for him....ever. So, I’m just as set in my opposition to Romney.


26 posted on 01/02/2008 5:41:29 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Tlaloc

Oh my gosh! You mean Huckabee is against homosexuals and abortion TOO!!!! That’s it, I’m not voting for him.


27 posted on 01/02/2008 5:41:38 PM PST by Juan Medén
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To: Tlaloc
"Gay behavior is learned."..as is liberal behavior..as evidenced by supporters of Romney, Huckabee, Guiliani and McCain.

U.S. Army Retired


28 posted on 01/02/2008 5:41:59 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Mitt to supporters: "DON'T TRY TO DEFEND MY LIBERAL RECORD. BELITTLE THEM WITH PERSONAL ATTACKS")
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To: Sola Veritas

Yep... I’ve been floored by the reaction by freepers here. I’m convinced it is because Huckabee was a pastor. The fiscal conservatives who have no real moral values are a vocal group.


29 posted on 01/02/2008 5:44:24 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: Tlaloc

-— Tim, understand, when a Christian speaks of sin, a Christian says all of us are sinners. I’m a sinner, everybody’s a sinner. What one’s sin is, means it’s missing the mark. It’s missing the bull’s eye, the perfect point. I miss it every day; we all do. -—

Favorable mention of G-d is one thing. Giving the standard rundown on sin on Meet the Press is quite another. The man is running for President, not Chief of Preachers!


30 posted on 01/02/2008 5:44:38 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it. I'm optiMITTstic!)
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To: Tlaloc

Is this one of those Ron Paul websites or what?


31 posted on 01/02/2008 5:47:52 PM PST by nevs911
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To: NavVet

“Remember the uproar when the scientist purported to have found the gay gene.”

I don’t know if there is a “homosexual” gene(s). However, I do know that Levi Strauss, seller of “jenes”, caters to homosexuals.

Seriously, even if they were to find a definitive set of genetic elements that predisposed a person to homosexual behavior, it still doesn’t mean they have to practice it. This is no different than a man with a wandering eye not practicing promiscuity. A person can control some behaviors.


32 posted on 01/02/2008 5:48:12 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Friendofgeorge
He watered down the sin of homosexuality to only “missing the mark”.

I think he did a very good job of explaining the concept of sin to an unbeliever.

I wont go into the many contrary sciptures, such as abomination etc etc.

The abomination part was the Torah. There is a progression of sinful behavior of sorts in Rom. 1:18-32 where homosexuality is in the middle, but it is not the worst. Homosexual acts are not the unforgivable sin, and while there is a good case for one sin to be worse than another, any sin without Jesus' forgiveness sends you to hell.

I think Russert (as many people in his audience) misunderstands Christianity as being a religion where if you do something bad enough then you go to hell--and homosexual acts are "bad enough". Huckabee is trying to correct this thinking.
33 posted on 01/02/2008 5:48:33 PM PST by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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To: claudiustg
Maybe Huckabee just has a closer relationship with God than you do? Russert asked the questions. If he doesn't answer right then many here will chide him for not being truthful. If he answers like he believes than the anti-christian freepers chide him for being to much of a preacher.

If I could say one thing to all of the fiscal freepers here it would be this..... you can't elect anybody by yourselves. You don't have enough votes. You need the moral conservatives to make it work.

34 posted on 01/02/2008 5:49:03 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Looks Like Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Eyes...


35 posted on 01/02/2008 5:49:03 PM PST by philly-d-kidder ( sOUTH OF iRAQ eAST oF sAUIDI wEST OF iRAN AND nORTH OF dUBAI...kuwait)
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To: Friendofgeorge
He watered down the sin of homosexuality to only “missing the mark”

Well, if you look at it from a ballistic standpoint....

Homosexuality IS "aiming at the wrong thing" so to speak.

36 posted on 01/02/2008 5:49:44 PM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: Cicero

“We may have certain tendencies, but how we behave and how we carry out our behavior–but the important issue that I want to address, because I think when you bring up the faith question, Tim, I’ve been asked more about my faith than any person running for president. I’m OK with that.”

It isn’t a “boast” if it is factual. Which it is.


37 posted on 01/02/2008 5:50:59 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: claudiustg
Favorable mention of G-d is one thing. Giving the standard rundown on sin on Meet the Press is quite another. The man is running for President, not Chief of Preachers!

I think every Christian should be clear on the definition of sin. It shouldn't take an M-Div to get this basic of an understanding.
38 posted on 01/02/2008 5:51:00 PM PST by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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To: kingu
Now why are either protected again?

Because the latter is a necessity for free men and the former is abhorrent to them.

39 posted on 01/02/2008 5:53:57 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

A free man who needs to have his faith protected from the opinions or desires of others is not a free man.


40 posted on 01/02/2008 5:56:36 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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